cubeshepherd
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I am not certain how to start this thread (as in what I should say) but lets see if I can find a start.
As I was watching the US Nationals 2019 live stream a few weeks back I heard someone say that there has been talk among people (Kit Clement and according to Kit it probably was Dene Beardsley) that came up with the idea that +2's in competitions should be changed to DNF's as the puzzle is not perfectly solved (My phrase "just as you need all the pieces of a 100 piece puzzle to say that it is perfectly complete and not 99 out of 100").
After hearing about that idea I began to think about it more and thought that it would be a pretty good idea to think about implementing in the WCA regulations, especially since it would avoid (and stop) a lot of people purposely +2'ing there solves (especially in feet, at least among slow'ish people and other events if that happens as much). This would of course be a little harder to accept into BLD event's (especially MBLD) and it would change a lot of the old results (IF the old results were touched, but if they were left alone then forget that), but even then it would be hard to think of what to do.
I on the other hand like the +2's as they are since there are times that you stop the timer and forget to turn a side or something akin, so I do have sympathy for that, but out of the two options I think the +2's becoming DNF's would again prevent a lot of solves purposely not being completely solved and stop people not caring to much about +2's versus if they knew that there cube was going to be a DNF (that would change the mindset).
With that all being said, I am sure there are some things that I am forgetting to add, but I will be adding them later in the thread if I remember.
Lastly, I am very interested in seeing everyone's thoughts, ideas, suggestions etc. but please only do so in a civil and kind fashion and PLEASE keep this thread on topic. I do not mind if you bring in other regulations or whatever but only if it is prevalent to this thread and is helpful. Additionally, if you do or do not agree with the idea and say so then PLEASE provide a valid reason (rather then just "I do not agree that is should be changed because") which is not helpful.
As I was watching the US Nationals 2019 live stream a few weeks back I heard someone say that there has been talk among people (Kit Clement and according to Kit it probably was Dene Beardsley) that came up with the idea that +2's in competitions should be changed to DNF's as the puzzle is not perfectly solved (My phrase "just as you need all the pieces of a 100 piece puzzle to say that it is perfectly complete and not 99 out of 100").
After hearing about that idea I began to think about it more and thought that it would be a pretty good idea to think about implementing in the WCA regulations, especially since it would avoid (and stop) a lot of people purposely +2'ing there solves (especially in feet, at least among slow'ish people and other events if that happens as much). This would of course be a little harder to accept into BLD event's (especially MBLD) and it would change a lot of the old results (IF the old results were touched, but if they were left alone then forget that), but even then it would be hard to think of what to do.
I on the other hand like the +2's as they are since there are times that you stop the timer and forget to turn a side or something akin, so I do have sympathy for that, but out of the two options I think the +2's becoming DNF's would again prevent a lot of solves purposely not being completely solved and stop people not caring to much about +2's versus if they knew that there cube was going to be a DNF (that would change the mindset).
With that all being said, I am sure there are some things that I am forgetting to add, but I will be adding them later in the thread if I remember.
Lastly, I am very interested in seeing everyone's thoughts, ideas, suggestions etc. but please only do so in a civil and kind fashion and PLEASE keep this thread on topic. I do not mind if you bring in other regulations or whatever but only if it is prevalent to this thread and is helpful. Additionally, if you do or do not agree with the idea and say so then PLEASE provide a valid reason (rather then just "I do not agree that is should be changed because") which is not helpful.
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