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Should 15 Puzzle be added to the Weekly Competition?

Should 15 Puzzle be added to the Weekly Competition?


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The FitnessGram Pacer Test is a multi stage...
We’re doing really well! Keep going guys!
Oh, and for those who aren’t certain, here’s why you should vote 15 puzzle:
- Good, cheap hardware
- Unique solving style
- There’s a lot of room to grow
- It’s not a high-commitment puzzle; within a few days of practicing, you should be able to complete a solve sub-20!
- Very different from other puzzles, new unique challenge
- Spam TPS
 
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Those are cons, not pros.
That’s highly subjective.
If you would like me to explain, well here we go:
- while it’s certainly hard to become fast and efficient, it’s important for many people to see early progress in their practice. Similar to pyraminx and 2x2.
- People who like small events will like 15 puzzle. I like spamming TPS, and I think that if you want to call that a con, go ahead, but that is very subjective.
 

One Wheel

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That’s highly subjective.
If you would like me to explain, well here we go:
- while it’s certainly hard to become fast and efficient, it’s important for many people to see early progress in their practice. Similar to pyraminx and 2x2.
- People who like small events will like 15 puzzle. I like spamming TPS, and I think that if you want to call that a con, go ahead, but that is very subjective.
It is subjective, that is true. On the other hand you are making the case that it’s a small puzzle. There is room for debate on my divisions, but as I figure it we already have 8 small puzzles (2x2, 3x3, Clock, Pyraminx, Square-1, Skewb, Kilominx, and Redi Cube) 3 medium puzzles (4x4, 5x5, and Master Pyraminx) and only 2 big puzzles (6x6 and 7x7). Curvy Copter would be a medium puzzle, I think.
 
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It is subjective, that is true. On the other hand you are making the case that it’s a small puzzle. There is room for debate on my divisions, but as I figure it we already have 8 small puzzles (2x2, 3x3, Clock, Pyraminx, Square-1, Skewb, Kilominx, and Redi Cube) 3 medium puzzles (4x4, 5x5, and Master Pyraminx) and only 2 big puzzles (6x6 and 7x7). Curvy Copter would be a medium puzzle, I think.
That’s all fair and good. However, I tend to think that while 15 puzzle is a short event, and I like it for that, Curvy Copter doesn’t add enough for me to prefer it over something like 15 puzzle which is incredibly different yet still kind of being a twisty puzzle (That being said, I see your point, and I would indeed like for 15 Puzzle, Curvy Copter, and Speed FMC each to be added. In the current state of things, that doesn’t look like it’ll be true, so I have to pick sides).
 

One Wheel

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That’s all fair and good. However, I tend to think that while 15 puzzle is a short event, and I like it for that, Curvy Copter doesn’t add enough for me to prefer it over something like 15 puzzle which is incredibly different yet still kind of being a twisty puzzle (That being said, I see your point, and I would indeed like for 15 Puzzle, Curvy Copter, and Speed FMC each to be added. In the current state of things, that doesn’t look like it’ll be true, so I have to pick sides).
Mirror blocks and Speed FMC are both different ways of approaching a puzzle, 15-puzzle and Curvy Copter are completely different puzzles. 15-puzzle seems cool, but it’s not really a twisty puzzle. We already have a 2-dimensional sorta-twisty puzzle in clock, but we don’t have any edge turning puzzles, and the only other shape-shifting puzzle is Square-1. Curvy Copter just adds more.
 

cubeshepherd

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Would virtual 15 puzzles be allowed?
To quote @Mike Hughey "While I like sims, and even competing with sims, the intention for our weekly competition here is that it be using physical puzzles. Sims really shouldn't be used.

Especially for something like 15 puzzle, where I would imagine the UWR for a sim would likely be significantly faster than for a physical puzzle."

So the answer would be no, which I agree with.
 

ProStar

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I changed my vote to yes! I originally voted no, but I decided to take a close look at 15 puzzle, and 10 minutes later I'm addicted! I'm using a virtual one rn, but will get one soon.
 
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