Question about N perm

[a small kitten]

This question is about N perm b (according to the PLL list here). I do N perm a with R U R' U [J perm] U' R U' R', but I can't seem to figure out the other N perm with the same logic. Anyone know it?

 

[JLarsen]

Why don't you use the N perm for the N perm? http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/pll/pllcasen

 

[a small kitten]

That doesn't answer my question.

 

[DavidWoner]

R' U' R U' (other Jperm) U R' U R

I use L U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R for the Jperm part.

However I do not recommend that you use these. I used to use them, but then I switched to real ones and they are much faster. I use:

Na: z R' U R' D R2' U' R U D' R' D R2' U' R D' which is really nice.
Nb: R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R also nice.

 

[Sa967St]

these are the ones I use:

Na: L U' L' U L F U F' L' U' L U L' U (y') L' U' L
Nb: R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' U' R U' (y) R U R'

 

[PeterV]

This is great! I've been putting off learning N perms because I coudn't find algorithms I like for them. Vault312's Na & Sa967St's Nb work great for me. Thanks to both of you! Once I learn these two algorithms, I'll have learned all the PLL's! Woo-hoo!

 

[Sa967St]

Vault312's Nb and my Nb are almost the same, his is shorter but mine is easier to remember because the last part is just inserting an F2L pair