Possible 2011 WCA Regulations Changes

[Erik]

I think the problem with relays is more that:
- they don't add anything new
- they take LONG
- but also the balance thing yeah

 

[TiLiMayor]

I think there should be a reform in the one handed solving section, allowing to have contact with the table in order to do slice moves.

 

[qqwref]

I think there should be a reform in the one handed solving section, allowing to have contact with the table in order to do slice moves.

Table contact is already allowed.........

C1b) During the solve no other body part or any object other than the surface must touch the puzzle.

 

[IamWEB]

Add Mirror Blocks. Rarely ever will there be enough people at a competition to do it, but should it happen there will be MB as an event.
If only that would actually happen. o.o

 

[da25centz]

Add Mirror Blocks. Rarely ever will there be enough people at a competition to do it, but should it happen there will be MB as an event.
If only that would actually happen. o.o

I dont think Mirror Blocks should be an event. Maybe for the forum comps, MAYBE, but not at actually comps. Its just a weird looking 3x3 that takes longer to solve. Not worth wasting comp time to do it

 

[IamWEB]

Forum competitions, great.
No, I'm not being sarcastic.

Seriously, I'm not.


Stop highlighting.



Seriously.

 

[da25centz]

Forum competitions, great.
No, I'm not being sarcastic.

Seriously, I'm not.


Stop highlighting.



Seriously.

lol.
talk to mike

 

[aronpm]

I think 6d is not clear enough about the certificates since you and me read the regulation and both understood something different, and reading the other reactions we are not the only ones. Besides this... again: don't you like this as a suggestion?

6d isn't unclear in my opinion. It simply says that organizers "should" give certificates as awards. "Should" is well defined in the WCA regulations, because at the start of the document it states:

The use of the words 'must', 'must not', 'should', 'should not' and 'may' comply with RFC 2119.

RFC 2119 states:

SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there
may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
particular item, but the full implications must be understood and
carefully weighed before choosing a different course.

So certificates are "recommended" but they are not required.

 

[TiLiMayor]

As the guy who sells puzzles in my country organized a comp, a suggested event was mirror blocks, I thought there was not going to be as it we were applying wca rules but turned out as a 3 12year old kid competing.

 

[masterofthebass]

the only mirror blocks event I could see being added is mirror blocks BLD (no inspection). That would warrant a new event, but I doubt there's enough interest for it to happen.

 

[whauk]

i think 4x4 OH would be fun. but i am probably alone

con: noobs would probably compete and need like 10 mins and its hard to fit in the timetable....

pro: we have 4 blind events with ALWAYS only a few people competing (at 4bld and 5bld) and only one OH event (which is probably as famous as 3bld). so why shouldnt we just make more OH events? there could be a time limit of maybe 4 mins and format could be mean of 3 (or even best of 1 or 2 or sth). we could test it one year using best of 1 and see whether it gains much interest... and srsly we all want to see faz making sub1

yeah just considering... you know im an OH-lover

 

[da25centz]

the only mirror blocks event I could see being added is mirror blocks BLD (no inspection). That would warrant a new event, but I doubt there's enough interest for it to happen.

that would be very fun, trying to solve it only by feel. Well, fun the first few times, but again, only good as a forum comp because theres not enough interest

 

[qqwref]

the only mirror blocks event I could see being added is mirror blocks BLD (no inspection). That would warrant a new event, but I doubt there's enough interest for it to happen.

Yeah, I could see this being a new event in the future. It's clearly different from both 3speed and 3BLD and could be quite interesting. Plus, blind people can compete with no disadvantage!

I don't think any puzzles that are basically pure 3x3 variations (mirror blocks, sudocube, mastermorphix, void cube, etc.) will or should be added as new events. The solving technique would be very similar to the normal 3x3, and then it would just revolve around how fast you can recognize and turn an oddly shaped or badly turning 3x3. Not very interesting IMO.

 

[TiLiMayor]

the only mirror blocks event I could see being added is mirror blocks BLD (no inspection). That would warrant a new event, but I doubt there's enough interest for it to happen.

I have done it and its not that bad, I mean pretty interesting thing to do but not to be considered as an oficial event, kinda live solving sq-1 cube shape blindfolded.

 

[TiLiMayor]

i think 4x4 OH would be fun. but i am probably alone

con: noobs would probably compete and need like 10 mins and its hard to fit in the timetable....

pro: we have 4 blind events with ALWAYS only a few people competing (at 4bld and 5bld) and only one OH event (which is probably as famous as 3bld). so why shouldnt we just make more OH events? there could be a time limit of maybe 4 mins and format could be mean of 3 (or even best of 1 or 2 or sth). we could test it one year using best of 1 and see whether it gains much interest... and srsly we all want to see faz making sub1

yeah just considering... you know im an OH-lover

I would suggest instead 2BLD or 2x2 OH it has been done as unofficial in chile.

But still both will be so fast, kinda like magic and mmagic.

 

[masterofthebass]

I have done it and its not that bad, I mean pretty interesting thing to do but not to be considered as an oficial event, kinda live solving sq-1 cube shape blindfolded.

except sq1 shape BLD is a maximum of 7 moves.

 

[RCTACameron]

I agree with having less BLD events, not because of the time they take, but because of the fact that DNFs are more common than successes. At the last competition I went to, there were only 2 people out of 7 who got any successes in 3BLD, and only 1 out of 4 who got successes in MultiBLD. At the last competition I went to with BigBLD, no one out of the 4 people competing in 4BLD had successes. I don't think it's really worth sacrificing speedcubing events for hours when no one gets successes. I think that it would be logical to remove 5BLD.

I support adding Skewb, because it's just another speedsolving events, so the rules are simple, it doesn't take much time (less than 3x3 for some people) and it has a reasonable amount of interest behind it.

 

[Zane_C]

I agree with having less BLD events, not because of the time they take, but because of the fact that DNFs are more common than successes. At the last competition I went to, there were only 2 people out of 7 who got any successes in 3BLD, and only 1 out of 4 who got successes in MultiBLD. At the last competition I went to with BigBLD, no one out of the 4 people competing in 4BLD had successes. I don't think it's really worth sacrificing speedcubing events for hours when no one gets successes. I think that it would be logical to remove 5BLD.

I support adding Skewb, because it's just another speedsolving events, so the rules are simple, it doesn't take much time (less than 3x3 for some people) and it has a reasonable amount of interest behind it.

Gtfo, just because there are a lot of nubs out there - doesn't mean you remove it for the people that are very good at it.
That's like banning cars because there are a small proportion of idiots out there that get drunk and go drag racing or whatever.

 

[aronpm]

There is no reason to remove any events. If an event takes too much time, just don't host it.

 

[TiLiMayor]

except sq1 shape BLD is a maximum of 7 moves.

Then I guess I have a lot practice pending.