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How about this

Why do CFOP solvers make up the majority of the world-class OH solvers if Roux is objectively better? Also, why has everyone not switched to roux yet if it's just so much better then CFOP?

Stupid argument, it's sample size. And why didn't everyone switch to CFOP back in the 1980s? It was in a magazine
 
No, it's cause your argument sucks. In fact, it's gotten even worse than when you started and you've changed it a bunch. And before you go all "no u" 3 year old on me, the only thing I've changed is that CFOP averages around 3 rotations instead of 2, which I offered an explanation for why I changed
Ok tell me what i changed
How about this

Why do CFOP solvers make up the majority of the world-class OH solvers if Roux is objectively better? Also, why has everyone not switched to roux yet if it's just so much better then CFOP?

You also said that 8 was the average cross even though that's the maximum number of moves if you aren't CN
because more people use cfop. I say 8 moves beacuse at a higher level people make xcrosses/ influence first pair. if you were to make only cross, it would be less moves. And despite 99% of people using cfop 10% of top100 Ohaverage is roux users ( that i know of

Max Park's Average TPS (Round2 Thanks for the Invite 2018 (9.99 Ao5)) - 7.53
Kian Mansour's Average TPS (Round2 Cubing under the Stars 2018 (10.87 Ao5)) - 5.47
Roux TPS > CFOP TPS? ... seems legit
why do you mention those 2 specific averages? and max park has a faster average so of course it will be faster
Please answer why you said switching to Roux would automatically make you faster.
Also @pjk
beacuse roux is much easier to get sub 20 Oh with compared to cfop beacuse you dont need as good OH tps
 
Guys PLEASE STOP!

I got a PB OH single!

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Ok tell me what i changed

Before you said FB was RrU and didn't require rotations, and you later said it was RrUuFB. I don't recall specifics of others, but I'm sure at least a couple more could be found if I looked back in your posts

And despite 99% of people using cfop 10% of top100 Ohaverage is roux users ( that i know of

Cherrypicked sample size

why do you mention those 2 specific averages? and max park has a faster average so of course it will be faster

Random averages. And the times in the averages aren't different enough to make a 2 TPS difference, which shows your point about TPS being the same wrong

beacuse roux is much easier to get sub 20 Oh with compared to cfop beacuse you dont need as good OH tps

You said earlier OH TPS is higher in Roux
 
Still doesn’t explain how you said ‘literally just switch to roux for OH and get it instantly’
You said instantly there. It would take more time to reach sub 20 from a method not your main than to keep going with what you already have.
Before you said FB was RrU and didn't require rotations, and you later said it was RrUuFB. I don't recall specifics of others, but I'm sure at least a couple more could be found if I looked back in your posts



Cherrypicked sample size



Random averages. And the times in the averages aren't different enough to make a 2 TPS difference, which shows your point about TPS being the same wrong



You said earlier OH TPS is higher in Roux
 
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Thanks for the entertainment everybody but can we please stop arguing? You have an opinion. That’s great.

I don't have a problem with Muk having an opinion that Roux is better for OH than CFOP. I have a problem when he says it is definitely better for OH without proof.

However, we are here to talk about what we love, cubing.

We are talking about cubing

Arguing over methods just makes you angry. Take a 5 minute break and take a chill pill. These arguments do not and will not matter.

I'm not angry, I'm trying to make Muk see he's wrong and that he shouldn't be stating opinions as fact
 
I don't have a problem with Muk having an opinion that Roux is better for OH than CFOP. I have a problem when he says it is definitely better for OH without proof.



We are talking about cubing



I'm not angry, I'm trying to make Muk see he's wrong and that he shouldn't be stating opinions as fact
I wasn’t trying to say you are in the wrong. I just wanted the arguing to subside.
 
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