[Help Thread] New discipline, perhaps?

[dabidesh]

Hello and sorry for bad English!
I play the following game: I mix the cube (3x3) on the „n“ moves and try to get it on the „n“ moves. I succeed at 5 and 6, but at 7 very rare (badly mixed). Is there such a discipline? How many moves do the masters make? I think 8 is impossible!
How long do they do?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

My non-cuber friends can do 1

 

[GenTheSnail]

I think some experienced people can manage around 9 or 10.
This is not an official event of a rather popular discipline, but plenty of people enjoy doing it.

 

[dabidesh]

I think some experienced people can manage around 9 or 10.
This is not an official event of a rather popular discipline, but plenty of people enjoy doing it.

I doubt about 10!

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I doubt about 10!

what about fmc?
with some technique it is doable

 

[dabidesh]

what about fmc?
with some technique it is doable

I do not know what fmc means!

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I do not know what fmc means!

Fewest Move Count

 

[dabidesh]

I want to see an solving of 10 moves!

 

[Mike Hughey]

I would not be that surprised to see single lucky solves at 10 moves, but if someone could consistently manage 10 moves, I would also want to see that. And know what goes through their head as they accomplish it, if they're able to describe it.

 

[DGCubes]

Fewest Move Count

Fewest Moves Challenge*

 

[Deleted member 36445]

oh sorry

 

[AegisSharp]

what about fmc?
with some technique it is doable

With fmc you're given the scramble, so it isn't the same as backtracing 10 moves surely?

 

[GenTheSnail]

With fmc you're given the scramble, so it isn't the same as backtracing 10 moves surely?

FMC as perhaps a separate scramble with an optimal solution of 9-10 moves?
I don't know how one would go about reversing a ten move scramble, but I'm confident that someone could do it.

 

[WoowyBaby]

Harry Savage did this challenge with 17 moves.
It is FMC WR, he found optimal solution within 1 hour.

What a legend, right!??

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I knew it was possible. If someone can find a 20 move solution to a 20 move scramble why not a 10 move solution? it seems very doable

and I'm talking about 1 hour

 

[GenTheSnail]

Harry Savage did this challenge with 17 moves.
It is FMC WR, he found optimal solution within 1 hour.

What a legend, right!??

That's not the same.
In FMC, you are trying as hard as you can to not reverse engineer the scramble--OP is asking from how many moves out can someone reverse the scramble

 

[dabidesh]

Why do I think 8 (say 10) is impossible? The algorithm with 2 formulas (1 with 4 moves and 1 with 8 moves, say 10 with twisting) is minimal (invented by Philipp Marshall). If someone does it with 10, then he can solving the cube without formulas, and that's already genius.

 

[ImmolatedMarmoset]

Why do I think 8 (say 10) is impossible? The algorithm with 2 formulas (1 with 4 moves and 1 with 8 moves, say 10 with twisting) is minimal (invented by Philipp Marshall). If someone does it with 10, then he can solving the cube without formulas, and that's already genius.

I would say that someone who is very good at blockbuilding and seeing spatial relationships, as in roux or Petrus, would be able to do around that number with a bit of luck. I use roux and I think having that background is very helpful.

 

[dabidesh]

I am waiting ... for 10.

 

[GenTheSnail]

Are you waiting for one of us to post a video of us reverse scrambling a cube from 10 moves?
I never claimed I could do it; I only claimed that I was confident that

some experienced people can manage around 9 or 10.

I doubt that you're going to get someone to give you proof that it is possible, at least for a while.