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Memory Methods

aronpm said:
Because S and P are on different edges so that could be interpreted as a 3cycle. Basically I think multi memo should be brain-dead, with no thinking required to tell if something is two flipped edges or a cycle*. That way, when you get to execution, if you think that SP was a cycle, rather than 2 flipped edges, then you DNF. With my way, that won't happen because you can't accidentally do that cycle.

*Also if you've got an odd number of flipped edges outside your buffer then you have to memorize an odd number of letters.
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Good point! I will consider it when going for multi.
 
I've been having some problems with my memory method for BLD.

First of all, I have very good memory (seriously).

The system I've been using was assigning words to cubies, plus a number for orientation. It's been working so far, but it takes me about a minute to memo, which for me is way too much.

So, I want to try a different method, but I don't really know which. I'm looking for a fast memo method, or at least knowing which method the top 5 BLD cubers use, so I can get an idea of what I should be using.

Thanks in advance =]
 
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IMO a very fast method (which I use) is letter pairs to make a sentence for edges and then just letter pairs to make sounds for corners.
 
I know how to solve a 3x3 bld, and I tap the piece for memo. I was starting to use sentences of words that represent each piece but that didnt work. Is there anything that may be good for me? I have considered memorizing a 24 letters for each slot for edges (12 x 2 = 24) and the same for corners (8 x 3 = 24) Then I would have to memorize around twenty letters. 12 edges + 8 corners. Does anyone do this? Is it good?
 
lots of people do something similar to what you suggested. Yes it can be very good. What I and many other cubers do is use letters for edges and visual for corners.

First memo your edges, which should come to a ~12 letter string which you can turn into words or sounds or sentences or whatever. Then memo corners visually, some like to tap the stickers, some say the letter corresponding to the face aloud (i.e. D for DFR.) Then solve corners using the shorter term visual memo, then edges with the longer lasting letters. This means you only need to memorize the locations of edges with their corresponding letters. Works for me.
 
aronpm said:
IMO a very fast method (which I use) is letter pairs to make a sentence for edges and then just letter pairs to make sounds for corners.
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I'm by no means a person who can do memo fast (30-40 seconds or higher if bad scramble) but I do have to fully agree that this is amazing. Using letter pairs to make a sentence, it only ends up being like 5 or 6 or 7 real words long (real words being the letter pair words, not stupid words like articles). And auditory makes it so you have free memo, and you just say the letters fast and it sticks in your head.

<3 it.
 
I´ve got some questions about Roman Rooms.
I want to start learning Roman Rooms for Multi- and Big- BLD.

1) How many locations should there in each room?
2) Do you use one Letter Pair each location, or more?
3) How many cubes should I put in each room?
 
Try for 10 locations. I have 8 objects placed around the room (bed, dresser, etc), then floor/ceiling.
I don't know what others do, but I place two letter pairs per location (interacting. The one I execute first is the dominant figure). I think some people group all the edges in one location, all the corners in another, etc.
Depending on how you group, 1 or 2. I do 1 because I find it faster for me in multi and less cramped (I put 2 pairs per location, thus leading to cramping). If you group all edges and corners in one location (two separate locations I mean, but group the same ones together) then you could do 2.
 
Cubenovice said:
Yes!
If you hold the cube in the same orientation as I do: green in front, yellow on top.
Old Pochman so the "A" is my buffer sticker.

EDIT: offcourse this is just a letter scheme, the "letter pairing" is what you do in your memo.
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Is it necessary to study and know by heart the letter pairs?

Also, I used that scheme but in my own strange way xD Using V as buffer.
 
RTh said:
Is it necessary to study and know by heart the letter pairs?
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Not necessary but it is definitely a BIG plus if you know them all by heart.
You can make up words “on the fly” but this takes longer and can lead to errors.
One could say that using a fixed set of words speeds up the “encrypting” and “decoding” of the info.

I do not know my full list by heart (yet) and I can clearly feel the difference (in both speed and accuracy) between fixed words and words I have to make up during memo.

RTh said:
Also, I used that scheme but in my own strange way xD Using V as buffer.
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You shoot from DFL?

Or do you shoot from UBL as in regular Old Pochmann and just have your cube oriented with V on UBL? (white up, blue in front)

The idea behind my corner lettering image is showing my lettering scheme for the cube oriented as I solve it:
Yellow on top, green in front.
Label the pieces clockwise around the corners, starting from my buffer piece UBL, then clockwise around the cube.
 
Cubenovice said:
Not necessary but it is definitely a BIG plus if you know them all by heart.
You can make up words “on the fly” but this takes longer and can lead to errors.
One could say that using a fixed set of words speeds up the “encrypting” and “decoding” of the info.

I do not know my full list by heart (yet) and I can clearly feel the difference (in both speed and accuracy) between fixed words and words I have to make up during memo.


You shoot from DFL?

Or do you shoot from UBL as in regular Old Pochmann and just have your cube oriented with V on UBL? (white up, blue in front)

The idea behind my corner lettering image is showing my lettering scheme for the cube oriented as I solve it:
Yellow on top, green in front.
Label the pieces clockwise around the corners, starting from my buffer piece UBL, then clockwise around the cube.
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Yes I did orient the cube with V on UBL, but changed the letters. That's the mistake I made. At least I didn't start memorizing with that scheme yet. I'm going to change it to a more suiting one
I like solving with the cube oriented with green on top, orange front and yellow right.


But, the think that I don't really understand is how you memo different cycles. If there are 2 cycles for your corners, how do you memo that change?

Also, what scheme do you use for the edges?

I'm going to memo with sentences for edges and sounds for corners, as Aron does. But I'm not sure how he builds his sentences =/
 
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I am still creating my letter pair list so am still using my PAO system. One thing I have done recently is change the Person element. Instead of famous people I have started using occupations, e.g. Acupuncturist, Butcher, Clairvoyant.. I have felt there is promising results. Using the interactions associated with each of these 'jobs' and they way they interact with the journey locations and actions and objects seems to stick more.

Damn I wish my execution would catch up with memory :(
 
Selkie said:
I am still creating my letter pair list so am still using my PAO system. One thing I have done recently is change the Person element. Instead of famous people I have started using occupations, e.g. Acupuncturist, Butcher, Clairvoyant.. I have felt there is promising results. Using the interactions associated with each of these 'jobs' and they way they interact with the journey locations and actions and objects seems to stick more.

Damn I wish my execution would catch up with memory :(
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Do you mean you memorize faster then you execute? Is this for a single cube (in that case it is commun) or big cube/lot of cubes?
 
Micael said:
Do you mean you memorize faster then you execute? Is this for a single cube (in that case it is commun) or big cube/lot of cubes?
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Memory does not seem to be an issue but I have had issues with execution. Forgetting setup, messing up an algorithm, fingers slipping. My first 3x3 sucess was only about a month ago and I have only had a handful of sucesses since. My brain and attitude has almost convinced me that BLD is my jinx cubing discipline so all my BLD solves are infected with self doubt. I realise that practice and sucesses will only go to improve my self confidence.

I feel I have the memory method and ability to multi but I do not feel it is worth attempting it until I have got some BLD confidence. It seems kind of pointless trying a 2, 3 or 4 multi when I may remember all correctly but get 0/4 because of silly execution mistakes.

Meanwhile my brain thinks overtime of ways to improve the memory when that really isn't my stumbling block.

Hope that explains somewhat :) .. I know I just need to practice BLD more and have a 'plan' to that practice and the confidence will come.
 
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I have thought a method for memo, but I don't know if will be good.
For edges I want to use letters pairs (building words ). And for corners I want to memorise 2 commutators visual and the rest with monosyllables (for examples ba,fe,ci,da,...)

I want to memorise sub20, Can I be sub 20 with this method?
 
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