Memory Methods

[Tyjet66]

I spent a good chunk of time experimenting with lettering pairs and using them in a journey method, I completely failed with that. On the other hand, I worked with tapping for 30 minutes and already had more success. I'll try figuring out a pattern for corners, thank you.

 

[Tyjet66]

I wasn't sure where I should post this as I didn't think this would be worthy of a new thread.

I'm using full Old Pochmann, I have a question:

For solving edges, you have to use set-up moves that do not disturb the UR edge and URF/URB corners.
So, for solving corners, do you have to use set-up moves that do not disturb the UB/UL edge and the ULB corner?

 

[Zane_C]

I wasn't sure where I should post this as I didn't think this would be worthy of a new thread.

I'm using full Old Pochmann, I have a question:

For solving edges, you have to use set-up moves that do not disturb the UR edge and URF/URB corners.
So, for solving corners, do you have to use set-up moves that do not disturb the UB/UL edge and the ULB corner?

Yes, that is correct.

 

[MichaelErskine]

So, for solving corners, do you have to use set-up moves that do not disturb the UB/UL edge and the ULB corner?

Assuming you are using a Y-Perm and J-Perms to swap out your buffer piece, then yes. Just take some time to understand why the method uses these PLLs and you'll see how the method works and what pieces need to be left undisturbed.

 

[CubeLord]

Faster Memo

So im starting to learn M2/Old Pochmann. I want to sub 2 or 1 30 which will take fast memorization. Does anybody have an extremely fast and efficient way of memorizing???????? Also, does anybody know good BLDr's fast memo methods?

 

[Tyjet66]

I use visual, it takes me 3-5 minutes to memorize (I just started), 2-4 minutes to go over it (I'm a safety whore, I know it lol) and about 4 minutes execution. There major thing is, you need to practice, A LOT, good luck!

 

[DennisStrehlau]

So im starting to learn M2/Old Pochmann. I want to sub 2 or 1 30 which will take fast memorization. Does anybody have an extremely fast and efficient way of memorizing???????? Also, does anybody know good BLDr's fast memo methods?

Use images. Every edge hat 2 images and every corner has 3 of course.
I always tell the people: USE IMAGES!
You should do that too or at least try it. I also use it and i can memorize in about 30 seconds (with checking the cube again after memorizing). You always have to practise of course.

Dennis

 

[amostay2004]

The key to fast memo (with whatever memo method) is to always rush your memo and not care about DNF-ing too much

 

[pappas]

I came up with this idea the other day. It sort of combines BH corners and 3OP. So you orient all the corners like normal 3OP and then instead of using set up moves and only a few basic cycles, you learn an alg for each cycle. I believe the number of algorithms in 42 sorry if I'm wrong. Then for the memo you assign each algorithm/cycle a number or image and just memorise that. So your memo might be something like 32 4 15. Sorry if this isn't anything new but I thought I might as well share it.

 

[That70sShowDude]

(M2/old pochmann)
Ok, I don't know much about memory methods, other than browsing this thread a little. When I started, I did what came naturally to me. Sometimes I have trouble recalling my memo when trying to go fast. Is this an efficient method for fast singles?:

Each edge sticker has a letter (A through X). I'll memorize the edges in groups of 4. I memorize the group of 4 in really awkward ways. Often, I find myself memo'ing 2 and 2 in that group of 4. Example memo- OWVQ KGMJ AED. For OWVQ, I'd think of Pestvic punching me and me saying, "OW VQ." vq as in vic. KGMJ would be an extremely easy combo to memo as in Kevin Garnett Michael Jordan; 2 great basketball players. Then AED would be a weird way of prouncing AID. This edge memo would actually be very easy for me.

For corners, I just apply the letter to what face the sticker is on (W, Y, R, G, B, O) and remember the position of that piece. Example could be Y B B R W G O. I would try to memo those letters efficiently like the edges, but also remember their position around the cube.

I believe that I have more issues with corners.

 

[Cubenovice]

@ 70'sDude

Here are some thoughts from a slow cuber

I use mixed tactics:
- Start with edge memo:
- Using words from my letter-pair image list. Remembering them just as words put into one or two sentences, not trying to visualize the "image" or place them in rooms or a journey
- freestyling letters into new words that contain more than two letters:
example HU NS becomes HUNS as in Atilla the HUN
example M B P becomes MoBilePhone 1st letter of each syllable

Then corner memo:
- skip first two corners
- if possible, stringing them up into something "pronouncable" by adding some random vowels in between
- otherwise same as edges

Your corner example: Y B B R W G OY
Skip YB remember BeRaWuGo OYster

Solve starts with corners
YB visual
BeRaWuGo OYster

In time you will get more comfortable with the visual part and can go to 3, 4 etc visual corners.
Then solve the edges where you have the more solid memo.

 

[ilikecubing]

Can someone give me a short explanation on how are images used for memo.

 

[Ordos_Koala]

you replace every edge or corner by some kind of image... and then you memorize which ones to switch. I'm not very good teacher, but you could try Badmephisto on youtube, he has some vids about BLD and he can explain it well

 

[ilikecubing]

you replace every edge or corner by some kind of image... and then you memorize which ones to switch. I'm not very good teacher, but you could try Badmephisto on youtube, he has some vids about BLD and he can explain it well

Can you elaborate please

I have seen badmephisto's video,but his memo method doesn't seem to suit me

 

[Ordos_Koala]

well, I learned only old Pochmann, so i'll stick to it... so bascily you have buffer on RU. it's green-red edge (green on top) so you need to swap these, so you remember either some word with GR (green-red) (like some friend of yours whose name is Greg or GRass, or something like that) and you continue this way, or (if your front side is red, top yellow) RB (right-back) (RoBbery,...) or you can imagine something that has a lot of green and little of red like Christmass tree... as I said, I'm very bad teacher so you should check wiki if you're interested in BLD or ask someone who can do it sub-1 minute... hope it helped thogh (btw there are some people that can mamorize it just by placing fingers on it, but in my opinion, it's really hard)

 

[Cubenovice]

Can someone give me a short explanation on how are images used for memo.

This guy can probably give you a good explanation, he seems to know quite a lot about BLD solving:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...uestion-thread&p=514709&viewfull=1#post514709

 

[ilikecubing]

Thats what I currently use,I use letters

I was just wondering if images are faster

 

[Ordos_Koala]

on that post you seem to understand it... two weeks ago

 

[ilikecubing]

Thats letters,isn't that different from images?

 

[Cubenovice]

yes and no...

Yes: in case you have an image per sticker (carrot for the Orange-green edge sticker, parrot for the green-orange edge sticker)
No: in case you assign a letter to each sticker and assign images / words to all possible letter pairs (DK = duck)

And another great idea: try reading the 53 previous pages of this thread or using the seach function...