abunickabhi
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Making Loci on the fly should be a thing.
It enhances our touring experience and presense of mind.
Hope it helps!
I have tried it (after previous people recommended it), but it doesn't seem to help. The rhythm just seems separate to the actual syllables to me. But I've pretty much just used an alternating rhythm, like your example - I haven't tried varying the rhythm between solves for variety, I suppose.I think 2 letters per syllable is fine. It's important to choose good distinct words to avoid confusion but what really helps me, especially with the longer memos is to use a rhythm. Something like one, two, three, four... five, six, seven, eight. Have you tried this?
Don't get discouraged, audio is hard. It took me over 5000 solves before I got comfortable with it. It may help if you set certain rules for the phonemes (eg- "a" always sounds like the "a" in "father").I have tried it (after previous people recommended it), but it doesn't seem to help. The rhythm just seems separate to the actual syllables to me. But I've pretty much just used an alternating rhythm, like your example - I haven't tried varying the rhythm between solves for variety, I suppose.
I can eventually get it to stick; it's just that it takes so horribly long to put it together and get it stuck. I have to admit - I haven't tried it, but 4BLD centers sounds just crazy to me. I'm guessing my times on 4BLD would increase from 6-7 minutes to 10+ minutes if I did that...
Maybe it's just that I underestimate the amount of practice required to get good at it. I would have thought my current total of probably around 1000 3BLD attempts I've tried with this method to be enough to start getting reasonable memo times. Perhaps it needs to be more on the order of 10,000?
Edit: I guess I should add - I have seen noticeable improvement over those 1000 or so attempts. It's just that I somehow expected to be making faster progress than this. I am now seeing a lot of sub-1:30 solves now, with sub-45 memo times; those were rare several hundred solves ago. And as I reported in another thread, I got a 1:00.74 single yesterday, which is the first time with this method and the first time in several years that I've gotten so close to a minute on a proper scramble. But that was with just 10 edges to memorize.
Is there anything in particular that you are struggling with (tracing, coming up with letter pairs, reviewing, etc)? Regardless, the main thing is to just keep doing solves.Is there any tips to get faster at 3BLD memo? No matter how hard I tried, somehow sub-3 minutes is far from possible. Currently use Audio for corners and audio or sometimes use letter pairs for edges.
I haven't exactly read it all, but I had this problem as well, something I did to make it more manageable is to visualise the first 2 (or 4) edge targets and do the rest with audio.Okay, I'm getting really frustrated with 3BLD now.
I switched to images for corners, audio for edges about a year ago (I had always done images for edges, audio for corners before.) Ever since I switched, I have found it almost impossibly difficult to put together and maintain audio for edges when it goes over 10 edges (5 pairs to memorize). Give me 14, and it's almost hopeless. 10 edges goes okay, but still is never as fast as my old method used to be. A few years ago, when I was in practice, I was able to memorize a whole cube in less than 30 seconds pretty consistently. Now, it's extremely rare that I go under 30 seconds to memorize, and I'm usually more like 45 or 50 seconds to memorize a cube, and if I have 14 edges to memorize, my memorization almost always takes more than a minute.
I'm wondering if this is just that I'm doing it wrong, or that I have a limitation to my audio memory that keeps me from being able to do it as fast as most other people. I admit that my audio memory is done with one syllable per edge pair. I tried to construct audio by combining more letters in a syllable, like I've seen that Noah Arthurs does, and like I know Brandon Satterstrom does, but I don't seem to be able to do that; I get horribly confused as I try to put them together and I never seem to succeed with that approach at all.
Is that the problem? Are there fast people who do audio edges with just 2 edges per syllable, or are all the fast people combining more edges per syllable? Do I simply have to go to 4 edges per syllable to make this work? Any pointers anyone could give to me to make this more successful?
I'm really becoming tempted at this point to go back to images for edges and audio for corners, since I was so much better that way. It's frustrating to have once been fairly regularly sub-1, but now be unable to get even close to a minute without a ridiculously easy scramble.
I have a memo question.
If you use "th" sound for Q letter for the audio letter-pair,
do you still use "th" for the image letter-pair?
Or you just use normal Q letter for image?
That confuse me a bit in terms of how my brain can transfer that letter.
i use some english wordsDoes anyone use multiple languages? I am currently using numbers for edges and letters for corners but I like letters better. I am thinking to use Dutch and English (almost the same level) or maybe Dutch and Japanese (motivation to extend my vocabulary). I have never spend the time for fixed images because blind isn't a priority for me, but I am thinking about slowly building up multiblind or trying bigcubes blind
im confortable with audio edges for the most part but ill admit sometimes i feel overwhelmedOkay, I'm getting really frustrated with 3BLD now.
I switched to images for corners, audio for edges about a year ago (I had always done images for edges, audio for corners before.) Ever since I switched, I have found it almost impossibly difficult to put together and maintain audio for edges when it goes over 10 edges (5 pairs to memorize). Give me 14, and it's almost hopeless. 10 edges goes okay, but still is never as fast as my old method used to be. A few years ago, when I was in practice, I was able to memorize a whole cube in less than 30 seconds pretty consistently. Now, it's extremely rare that I go under 30 seconds to memorize, and I'm usually more like 45 or 50 seconds to memorize a cube, and if I have 14 edges to memorize, my memorization almost always takes more than a minute.
I'm wondering if this is just that I'm doing it wrong, or that I have a limitation to my audio memory that keeps me from being able to do it as fast as most other people. I admit that my audio memory is done with one syllable per edge pair. I tried to construct audio by combining more letters in a syllable, like I've seen that Noah Arthurs does, and like I know Brandon Satterstrom does, but I don't seem to be able to do that; I get horribly confused as I try to put them together and I never seem to succeed with that approach at all.
Is that the problem? Are there fast people who do audio edges with just 2 edges per syllable, or are all the fast people combining more edges per syllable? Do I simply have to go to 4 edges per syllable to make this work? Any pointers anyone could give to me to make this more successful?
I'm really becoming tempted at this point to go back to images for edges and audio for corners, since I was so much better that way. It's frustrating to have once been fairly regularly sub-1, but now be unable to get even close to a minute without a ridiculously easy scramble.
Every once and a while I will use German, since that is the other language that I know, but the only times I use that is if I want to add variety to my memo when I am doing 10+ MBLD or sometimes I use German for my corners on 4x4, and 5x5 BLD since that if course ins the last thing I solve, and for me sometimes having the corners in a different language helps me to remember whatever it is I memoed it with longer. Other then that I do not use German, although I think that I will try a few different things now that I am thinking about it : )Does anyone use multiple languages? I am currently using numbers for edges and letters for corners but I like letters better. I am thinking to use Dutch and English (almost the same level) or maybe Dutch and Japanese (motivation to extend my vocabulary). I have never spend the time for fixed images because blind isn't a priority for me, but I am thinking about slowly building up multiblind or trying bigcubes blind
When I take the AMC 10, which is a math competition, I can remember the answers and solutions for each problem that I solve fairly easily. Maybe I should number each edge/corner with a number.
I've been trying to research memorization techniques in order to improve
my times and have been considering transitioning to PAO from regular letter pairs. I think it would alleviate some
issues I've had with regular letter pairs, for instance remembering the correct order of the words. Is there any particular downsides to it (besides that it would take some time to learn)?
Currently I just make up words (mostly nouns and people) for every letter combination and then integrate these with each other into one picture, with around 3-4 loci per 3x3.
It seems like PAO is far less popular in the cubing community, so I would be interested in hearing what you guys think.
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