Magics Removed from WCA Events List in 2013?

[Endgame]

But if someone come with a magic that only need a 6-flip, not the twist, it should be not allowed, but there is nothing against it in the rules

The events will be removed starting 1st January, 2013, so why care?

 

[Kirjava]

But if someone come with a magic that only need a 6-flip, not the twist, it should be not allowed, but there is nothing against it in the rules

3c

 

[hcfong]

3c

and perhaps 3h as well

 

[Ranzha]

I still don't understand why people are under the impression magics' removal necessitates their 'replacement'. Mutual exclusivity, guise.

 

[Ninja Storm]

I still don't understand why people are under the impression magics' removal necessitates their 'replacement'. Mutual exclusivity, guise.

I feel like people are hoping they're favorite unofficial event will become official.

 

[Owen]

I think the judging problem could be solved by only letting qualified people judge. A lot of competitions run low on time and let anyone judge, even first-time competitors. The regulations don't work if no one knows them.

 

[Sebastien]

I think the judging problem could be solved by only letting qualified people judge. A lot of competitions run low on time and let anyone judge, even first-time competitors. The regulations don't work if no one knows them.

And again: say Hi to Utopia.

 

[insane569]

Man magics sure are a big thing. I never got to solve one in competition. But I wont miss it. No magic means more time for other events. Like OH or MBLD.

 

[TheLowRider512]

I think if they are replacing magics with another event, it should be Team BLD. This is not an official event, but is sometimes at competitions, and I find it extremely fun to do.

 

[Sebastien]

Why not replace magic with cup stacking?

Seriously guys, stop suggesting new events only because other are getting removed. Just don't be so naive and off-topic!

 

[hcfong]

Well, cup stacking is not a Rubik's puzzle or twisty puzzle and therefore falls outside the scope of interest of the WCA. In fact, if Magic wasn't a Rubik's puzzle, I doubt it would have been an official event in the first place.

Having said that, I agree with your second point.

 

[Vincents]

Team BLD has other problems right now.

For example, how would you store results? If you have competitor A and B who are a team, how do we store their results? Do you rank by teams? If A calls and B solves, is that different from if B calls and A solves? Does each person get one ranking, or multiple? For example, if A and B set a time of 1:00, and A and C set a time of 0:59, is A ranked twice? How does that display on the WCA profile? How do we store the results?

I could go on.

 

[lachose]

As I said in the new events thread, I think we shouldn't store results as team results. For me rankings should be (using your example) :
1. A (with C) 0:59
1. C (with A) 0:59
2. B (with C) 1:00

That way, results are individual and just precise with who your time was done. And you don't need to separate caller and solver because the important is the understanding between the two people not their roles (in my opinion).

 

[Mr Cubism]

.....will be not holding the event in 2013. Records and times will be archived, but no new times would take place.

The person who has the WR in the end of 2012 will keep that record for ever. Cool!

 

[applemobile]

What is stopping all the people who want magic, to part and make their own official association and take on the Magic and Master magic as an official event? Apart from the fact it would be absolutely boring as hell and probably only 3 people would turn up.

 

[Kirjava]

The person who has the WR in the end of 2012 will keep that record for ever. Cool!

What record?

What is stopping all the people who want magic, to part and make their own official association and take on the Magic and Master magic as an official event? Apart from the fact it would be absolutely boring as hell and probably only 3 people would turn up.

You just answered your own question.

 

[cityzach]

What record?

Can't tell if trolling or..
Magic and Master Magic world records...

 

[Kirjava]

Can't tell if trolling or..
Magic and Master Magic world records...

You mean...

...unofficial world records?

 

[Sebastien]

Noone loses what he likes, it will just not be an official puzzle anymore.

Actually everyone will get over it after some time. I would divide people liking magic in 2 groups: One group of people who just like doing magics somehow but know that it is a completely stupid event compared to other WCA events, and one group of people who will eventually turn 14.

 

[Mollerz]

Magic is a stupid event, I don't know why I really practice it, just fills some time when I can't turn cubes, it's fun to do as a little time filler. I guess Sebastien hit the nail on the head really.

This was a long time coming, I doubt many people will miss it. Can't wait for magic HTH at UK Competitions now ._.