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That's your opinion, not a fact. Breaking in has the same effect.
Not to mention the placebo effect from taking a cube apart, spending 30 mins working on it, then putting it back together. Adds up to a belief in a 'better' cube.
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That's your opinion, not a fact. Breaking in has the same effect.
My SS4 v5 didn't have any internal lock ups straight out of the box.
SS modified their design to make the Konsta mod unnecessary.
I've heard that Konsta modding them despite not needing to can result in major problems with the cube.
If you are just tickling the cube with a nail file you probably aren't doing anything that a couple of hundred solves wouldn't.
Actually it is all about how much the plastic there is on the pieces. If there is too much, it locks up. If there is too little, it breaks. If there is the right amount the cube performs well. It has nothing to do with opinions, it has to do with how the pieces move around the mechanism. This is not about the feeling of the cube; Its about modding the cube to avoid lockups. This is why people mod cubes. Not for the placebo, but for the result. This is why cube-o-holic according to his own words has bought atleast 2 modded cubes. I base my results on testing, not on how it feels.That's your opinion, not a fact. Breaking in has the same effect.
Not to mention the placebo effect from taking a cube apart, spending 30 mins working on it, then putting it back together. Adds up to a belief in a 'better' cube.
Also all of your arguments have actually backed up my initial statement, hope you realized that.
If the you do not even need to konsta mod the V5, then its a great cube out of the box for 8 dollars. Which makes it that much harder to beat. Which is why price matters.
If the you do not even need to konsta mod the V5, then its a great cube out of the box for 8 dollars. Which makes it that much harder to beat. Which is why price matters.
In all honesty, let's get real here. You people started a flame war over a cube you haven't tried yet, and don't even know the price range. Really?
I'd really want to know what you are using for a 4x4 because what I have can be easily described as great. And out of the box the inner layers lock up. You can test that by doing the PLL parity over and over with an out of the box SS 4x4 v5. What do you base your opinion on? I base mine on having tried an unmodded cube and a modded one and then comparing the two by doing timed solved and comparing the standard deviation of the solves.But nobody ever said the SS4 v5 is bad because it has internal lock ups.
The cube is OK but it's not great by any stretch of the imagination.
I wouldn't consider that a flame war and it started because an assumption was made with no evidence or knowledge to back it up. It kind of just escalated from there.
You are not going to get a 4x4 that performs like a 3x3.
As I have already stated (albeit deleted now) I have a Konsta and Florian modded SS4 v3 and have a SS4 v5 which straight out of the box didn't have internal lock ups.
Another assumption based on nothing.
Yes, I expect that I will be able to purchase a 4x4 which performs almost as well as a 3x3 at some point in the future.
The MF8 + Dayan V1 was amazing except it was a little too big and popped like crazy. That was their 1st attempt at a 4x4 and have failed miserably to improve upon the design. That doesn't mean that the quality won't be reproduced in the future without the cons.
Do you realise how far 4x4s have come in a few years? Faz was breaking WRs with a QJ mini.
Anyway, I'm done. I have nothing left to say to you.
The new cube wont cut anything more than an X-cube 4 if its based on the x-cube 4 mech.
Each mechanism has it's limits. If it is based off the x-cube mech it will face the same limitations. With this I was mostly backing up my claim on why a 4x4 cant really cut any better than 30 degrees. By shaving off some plastic 30 degrees can be achieved but anything well above that cant happen in my opinion.Hmm? why?
Regular cutting, umm I guess.
But how about reverse cutting?
Each mechanism has it's limits. If it is based off the x-cube mech it will face the same limitations. With this I was mostly backing up my claim on why a 4x4 cant really cut any better than 30 degrees. By shaving off some plastic 30 degrees can be achieved but anything well above that cant happen in my opinion.
Reverse cutting might be a bit better because the roundness of the edgepieces, corner pieces and center corners actually matters there. The WeiSu-pieces look a little rounder than the X-cube 4 pieces (http://www.fasttech.com/products/2115/10002275/1165701-x-cube-4x4x4-puzzle-speed-cube)
Generally I think people are expecting too much out of bigger order cubes. I personally cannot come up with a feasible way to make a 4x4 cut 45 degrees or anything close it, because the rest of the pieces get in the way.
my 4x4 can cut 45 on some sides, yet I think it sucks.
Also it rarely ever pops. It is slightly loose though
I'd love to see video material of this, because to be honest, I dont see that happening.my 4x4 can cut 45 on some sides, yet I think it sucks.
Also it rarely ever pops. It is slightly loose though
I'd love to see video material of this, because to be honest, I dont see that happening.
Are you saying that he's lying?
Yep. Atleast overestimating the actual amount of corner cutting. I'm inviting anyone to examine what would hypothetically happen inside a 4x4 when cutting 45 degrees.