IsThatA4x4’s progression thread // Sub-10 3x3 // Sub-9 Squan // Road to Squan UKNR - 3-looking now !!! (OBL/PBL)

After seeing the overall great reception of the tornado v3, I have decided to get one (flagship ver. which in case you've been living under a rock has mag core and springs). It should be here in a few days from now, as I actually managed to get it from kewbzUK.

Hoping it will be a new main, the extra stability without really sacrificing speed is what I've been looking for in a cube, and it's also not a GAN which I'm all for.
 
Generated By csTimer on 2022-09-25
avg of 100: 3.79
Sub-4!
That's enough 2x2 improvement for now; I wanted to be sub-4 for nationals and I am now sub-4, so I can focus on potentially getting to sub-11 3x3 before nationals (a little over a month, could be doable but it's going to be difficult)
 
Ok, I received the tornado v3 on Monday so I've had 2 days to break it in and do some solves.
I really like this cube; it feels very tactile to turn and has a light, crunchy feel. It's a very fast cube, but also a very stable cube and I never feel like I'm out of control when I'm turning it (I have the flagship version btw). The only criticism I could really give is that the corner cutting is a little tough, however in solves it doesn't really affect me that much because of the nature of how the cube turns; and once I work out how to get the little handle up I'll loosen the cube a bit and see how it does then.
Overall, definitely a new main, I would recommend for sure.
 
Alright, here's how today's session went
I got that PB single, but more importantly here's some general progress:

Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-15
avg of 50: 10.68
Smashed my ao50 PB, really happy with this
&
Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-15
avg of 100: 10.98
A sub-11 ao100! Now I only have one average left to get sub-11, and that's my ao1000.

Overall a great session; hopefully I can be sub-11 soon and begin the final grind to sub-10.
 
Had an absolutely amazing session this morning; I don't quite understand how it happened but I'll take it.
PBs:

Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-16
avg of 5: 9.35
Time List:
1. 9.57 R2 F U2 R2 B' L2 B' L2 F2 D2 F U2 D' F U F L' B' F2 D' B'
2. (11.15) F' D2 U2 R2 F L2 D2 F' R2 F2 R B' R2 U2 L' U
3. 9.70 U B2 R D F2 L2 B2 L F R U2 B2 R' D2 R F2 U2 L' D2
4. 8.77 R2 B' D2 L2 D2 L2 B2 R2 F D2 F2 R B L' U' B2 D L' D R
5. (8.73) U2 R' B' R' L2 D B' D R2 U2 B2 R F2 R F2 R' U2 F2 L F2 U


Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-16
avg of 12: 10.09 - this is incredible for me; nearly sub-10!
Time List:
1. 10.52 U B2 U' F2 U2 R2 U L2 R2 U2 R' B U' B2 U2 F' U2 L F' R2
2. 10.28 B2 R B2 D B2 U' R2 U' F2 D F2 D L2 B2 R F' L2 U R B2 L2
3. 9.57 R2 F U2 R2 B' L2 B' L2 F2 D2 F U2 D' F U F L' B' F2 D' B'
4. 11.15 F' D2 U2 R2 F L2 D2 F' R2 F2 R B' R2 U2 L' U
5. 9.70 U B2 R D F2 L2 B2 L F R U2 B2 R' D2 R F2 U2 L' D2
6. 8.77 R2 B' D2 L2 D2 L2 B2 R2 F D2 F2 R B L' U' B2 D L' D R
7. (8.73) U2 R' B' R' L2 D B' D R2 U2 B2 R F2 R F2 R' U2 F2 L F2 U
8. 10.42 F' B2 R' B2 D2 R' B2 U2 B2 R2 D2 U2 B D' U2 L' D L' F2 R D
9. (11.62) B2 L' U2 R' F2 R B2 U2 L2 D2 L B2 U F U L F2 D' R F' R
10. 9.50 F U2 F2 U2 R U2 R' B2 R' F2 R2 B2 U2 B' D L2 D' R B2 F R
11. 9.97 F' D R B2 L B2 U2 L U2 B2 F2 R D2 F' D' R F L D' R'
12. 10.98 F2 U2 F U2 R2 F' R2 U2 F' D2 F2 D' F' R' U2 L D F2 D2 R

Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-16
avg of 50: 10.57 - solid improvement over yesterday

Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-16
avg of 100: 10.77 - really good

Generated By csTimer on 2022-10-16
avg of 1000: 11.37 - broke the 11.4 barrier finally
 
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Ok I have a few updates here
Firstly, nationals!

I didn't do very well in 3x3; for some reason my nerve control was much worse than it has been in the past and I got a 12.38 average for r1, and a 13.37 (funny number though) in r2, so I didn't make semis sadly.
In 2x2 I got a 4.22 and then a 4.19 average, which I was happy with.

The main highlight of the comp for me was the 3x3 improvement I had because of the insane amount of grinding solves I did in between rounds. Here are my PBs as of now, bold = new PB:
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
single: 7.34
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
mean of 3: 8.57 - sub 9!
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
avg of 5: 9.26
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
avg of 12: 9.94 - sub 10!
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
avg of 50: 10.51
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
avg of 100: 10.70
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-01
avg of 1000: 11.13

I think with a little more grinding, I'll be sub-11 in no time; I'm really happy with where I'm at here.
 
Sorry to hear about ukc. Nerves at comps can just erupt unexpectedly from my experience. My nerves were better as I already had an insane pr average lol. I only broke 1 pr though. Well done on becoming sub-11.
 
I have a very weird issue with my tornado v3; apparently a magnet fell out of a corner and I have no idea where it went...
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Anyone got any idea what I could do here, or do I just have to buy a new tornado now?
Maybe I can get the corner piece specifically (I ordered this from KewbzUK if that helps)?
Edit: It appears kewbz does sell spare parts, so I'll try to get the piece from there
 
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Still Cubing?
Yes! I've just been away from the forums for a while for no particular reason.
Got a comp coming up at the end of this month so I've been practicing 3, 3OH, and squan and I have made quite a bit of progress:
Current PBs (single/mo3/ao5/ao12)
3x3
(7.34 still/8.57/9.13/9.74) ao1000: 10.62
3x3 OH (14.35 5 second improvement from last single/17.56/18.78/19.82) ao100: 22.83
Squan (10.40 still/12.73/13.26/15.13) ao100: 16.63

I find OH really fun now that I've developed good turning, and I've had some insane improvement in the past few weeks; 3x3 is getting closer and closer to sub-10 which is always nice.
 
Generated By csTimer on 2023-02-07
avg of 5: 9.04

Time List:
1. (10.27) R2 D2 B2 L2 U2 R B2 F2 R' D2 R' U' F D2 B R D L R
2. (8.15) D' R F2 D2 B2 L2 D' L2 R2 D2 L2 D' R D2 L' D U F L'
3. 8.39 D' B' L2 F2 U' R2 U R2 D F2 U B2 D' R F' D2 L' U' B' U'
4. 9.20 R2 U2 F2 L2 D2 R2 U' L2 R2 B2 L' F D2 R U R2 F' R' U'
5. 9.53 U R F' L2 B L2 D2 B2 U2 B' U2 L2 R2 F' L F' D' L B2 D' R'

Very close to sub-9 ao5, I'm very happy with this.
 
Generated By csTimer on 2023-02-25
avg of 12: 14.10 actually happened again
Time List:
1. (11.34) (-2,0)/ (2,-4)/ (3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-5,-5)/ (-4,0)/ (3,0)/ (1,0)/ (-2,0)/ (-4,-4)/ (0,-4)/ (0,-2)/ (0,-2)/ (-3,0)
2. 13.82 (4,3)/ (0,3)/ (0,3)/ (-3,0)/ (3,0)/ (-4,-1)/ (0,-5)/ (0,-3)/ (4,0)/ (0,-1)/ (-2,-4)/ (0,-3)/ (6,0)
3. 14.32 (0,-4)/ (1,-2)/ (-4,2)/ (-3,0)/ (1,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (5,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,0)/ (5,-1)/ (0,-5)/ (2,0)/
4. 12.70 (1,0)/ (-3,0)/ (2,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (1,-2)/ (2,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (4,-1)/ (0,-2)/ (0,-4)/ (-2,-2)
5. (16.84) (-5,0)/ (2,-4)/ (6,-3)/ (-5,-2)/ (2,-4)/ (0,-5)/ (-3,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (-1,0)/ (0,-5)/ (4,0)/
6. 15.62 (-5,0)/ (6,-3)/ (-1,2)/ (6,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (1,-3)/ (-3,-3)/ (1,0)/ (-4,0)/ (4,-4)/ (2,0)
7. 12.17 (1,0)/ (3,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (-1,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,0)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (4,-4)/ (-4,0)/ (-4,-3)/
8. 15.70 (0,-4)/ (3,0)/ (-5,4)/ (3,0)/ (5,-1)/ (-2,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-1,-2)/ (-2,0)/ (-2,0)/ (-4,-1)/
9. 16.24 (0,-1)/ (6,3)/ (-5,-5)/ (3,0)/ (5,-4)/ (3,0)/ (-5,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (1,0)/ (-4,0)/ (4,0)/ (-2,-4)/ (-2,0)/
10. 16.20 (0,2)/ (0,3)/ (-2,-5)/ (0,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (5,-1)/ (-5,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (-5,-4)/ (0,-2)/ (6,0)/ (0,-2)
11. 11.78 (3,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,1)/ (3,-3)/ (3,-1)/ (3,0)/ (2,0)/ (0,-5)/ (0,-1)/ (1,0)
12. 12.45 (4,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-4,5)/ (1,-2)/ (3,-3)/ (3,0)/ (5,0)/ (-3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-4,0)/ (6,0)/ (0,-4)/ (-3,-4)/ (-2,0)

PB ao12 while waiting for 2x2 finals in lincolnshire winter (all about that after tomorrow)
Edit: again
 
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Squan PB single of 8.65 while waiting for squan finals:
Scramble: (0, 5) / (6, -3) / (-3, 0) / (1, -2) / (-1, -1) / (-5, -3) / (6, -3) / (-3, 0) / (-4, -2) / (0, -4) / (6, 0)
// recon //
60/04/12/03/ ## CS(5-1/L) (4/4)
6-5/-30/ ## CO (2/6)
-36/-30/-1-1/41/ ## EO(CP skip) (4/10)
03/03/-1-1/1-2/0-3/03/-1-1/1-2/60 ## EP(-/U) (8/18)

18/8.65=2.08 SPS
 
Well now that the comp is over I guess I should do a comp overview:
1st round
3.53 ao5 (I beat my friend by 0.01 *insert evil laugh*)
Finals
4.60 ao5
1st round
23.27 ao5
Finals
24.65 ao5 ft. nice 18.49 single
1st round (my only round)
57.27 ao5 (global PB) ft. 51.54 PB2 single
1st round
17.96 ao5
Finals
16.86 ao5 (I got 7th because no one does squan apparently)
1st round
12.08 ao5 (not good)
2nd round
11.32 ao5 (better)
Semis
10.52 ao5 (that's what I wanted) ft. 9.25 PR single
Finals
11.54 ao5 (I was very tired)

I'm really happy with this comp, I made finals and got the averages I wanted in all my events (except 4x4 but I can't complain about a PB average)
 
So, I have started learning CSP now; but I'm running into some issues with tracing mirrors. It seems like for some cases when i trace the mirror i have to use the opposite alg, and for some cases even and odd algs remain the same. Is there a general rule for tracing mirrors I can use so that e.g. for 7-1/star, if I get odd parity with either star on top or bottom, I don't do a 2 move on the star to switch parity?
 
Generated By csTimer on 2023-03-12
avg of 5: 12.33
(-3,5)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (1,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-3,-4)/ (0,-3)/ (3,-2)/ (-4,0)/ (3,-4)/ (6,-4)/ (-2,0)

20/0-2/-23/-1-2/-30/ // CS (scallop/muffin) [5/5]
-56/ // CO [1/6]
33/-30/30/-1-1/-30/41/ // EO (L/line) [6/12]
0-3/30/-30/30/-30/ // CP (N/J) [5/17]
63/5-1/-51/03/30/-1-1/-21/20 // EP (bad U/U) [7/24]

24/12.54 = 1.91 SPS
(0,-4)/ (3,0)/ (-2,-5)/ (2,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (4,-5)/ (-4,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,0)/ (5,0)/ (-4,-1)/ (4,-2)/

/02/-40/-1-2/-30/ // CS (scallop/square) [5/5]
13/ // CO [1/6]
3-3/-30/-1-1/41/ // EO [4/10]
/33/03/33/03/33/ // CP (-/N) [6/16]
06/03/-1-1/1-2/00/-1-1/1-2/-1-1/14/-1-1/3-2 // EP (adj/W) [10/26]

26/13.29 = 1.96 SPS
(1,0)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (5,0)/ (3,0)/ (1,0)/ (2,0)/ (-4,-4)/ (0,-2)/ (3,0)/ (6,0)

10/3-4/-43/-1-2/-30/ // CS (4-2/L) [5/5]
-26/-30/ // CO [2/7]
06/30/30/-1-1/-21/-30/ // EO (1/1) [6/13]
33/30/-3-3/03/ // CP (J/J) [4/17]
-3-3/03/-1-1/1-2/30/30/-1-1/-21/-43 // EP (U/Z) [8/25]

25/13.30 = 1.88 SPS
(0,5)/ (4,-2)/ (3,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-4,-1)/ (-2,-5)/ (5,0)/ (-3,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-1,-1)/ (-2,0)/ (0,-2)

02/01/33/ // CS (shield/shield) [3/3]
-3-4/ // CO [1/4]
44/-30/30/-1-1/-30/30/ // EO (line/L) [6/10]
30/30/-3-3/03/ // CP (J/J) [4/14]
4-2/30/-1-1/-5-2/60/53 // EP (adj/adj) [5/19]

19/11.15 = 1.70 SPS
(-3,-1)/ (-2,1)/ (0,-3)/ (-4,-4)/ (3,0)/ (3,0)/ (-2,0)/ (3,-3)/ (6,0)/ (-5,0)/ (-2,-2)/ (-2,-4)

0-2/22/-10/-3-3/ // CS (star/4-4) [4/4]
0-1/-30/ // CO [2/6]
-24/-30/-1-1/40/ // EO (L/L) [4/10]
33/30/-3-3/03/ // CP (J/J) [4/14]
0-3/30/-1-1/1-2/03/30/1-1/-5-2/60/0-3 // EP (-/U) [9/23]

24/10.72 = 2.15 SPS

And also
Generated By csTimer on 2023-03-12
avg of 12: 13.36
 
7.25 3x3 single PB!
Recon:
D' L2 B2 F2 D' L2 F2 R2 D' R2 D L' U F' R F2 U2 R' D
z2 R' D U R' F D F // x-cross (accidental) [7/7]
y' L' U2 L U L' U' L // pair [6/13]
U2 R' U' R U2 R' U R // pair [8/21]
y' U' R' U2 R U2 R' U R // pair [8/29]
r' U2 R U R' U r // OLL [7/36]
U // AUF (PLL skip) [1/37]
37/7.25 = 5.1 TPS
 
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