Is the any benefit to doing Yau5 over freeslice for 5x5?

[TraciAG]

I'm pretty slow at 5x5, so I thought maybe switching methods would help me improve. I tried doing Yau5 yesterday, but as I was doing it I couldn't understand what the benefit was over freeslice, so I stopped halfway because I wasn't motivated. Is there any benefit over freeslice, or is it just like CFOP or Roux where you just find the method you prefer?

 

[Rocky0701]

I'm pretty slow at 5x5, so I thought maybe switching methods would help me improve. I tried doing Yau5 yesterday, but as I was doing it I couldn't understand what the benefit was over freeslice, so I stopped halfway because I wasn't motivated. Is there any benefit over freeslice, or is it just like CFOP or Roux where you just find the method you prefer?

It's kind of like CFOP/Roux, it's just personal preference. Yau5 doesn't give as much of an advantage as Yau on 4x4. People can still be incredibly fast with Yau5 for example Robert Yau himself.

 

[Robert-Y]

I'm bad with freeslicing for edges. Using my method means that I don't have to try so hard. I can "get away" with having bad lookahead for edges

 

[~Adam~]

There's always Hoya.

 

[cashis]

There's always Hoya.

Also try Hoya, if you want. Its a great alternative if Yau5 doesnt work out, and I think its better than Yau for 5x5.

 

[Ordway Persyn]

There's always Hoya.

Do this!!! come join the hoya side

 

[guysensei1]

Benefits:
Easier lookahead during edge pairing after cross+centers. (you do freeslice the F2L edges anyway)
Sexier centers.
Sexy

 

[unsolved]

There's always Hoya.

Do you have a link to a Hoya solve?

 

[sigalig]

I'm pretty slow at 5x5, so I thought maybe switching methods would help me improve. I tried doing Yau5 yesterday, but as I was doing it I couldn't understand what the benefit was over freeslice, so I stopped halfway because I wasn't motivated. Is there any benefit over freeslice, or is it just like CFOP or Roux where you just find the method you prefer?

I honestly don't understand why yau5 isn't the main method for all the fast solvers. Whenever asked about it, people like Feliks sound like they really just haven't put the time/effort into getting especially fast with it. I think it has all the benefits of yau4, and the more pieces there are on the puzzle, the more the yau look ahead for edge pairing becomes useful. The only downside is the last 4 centers which can be a little difficult/tedious, but it just takes getting used to.

 

[supercavitation]

I honestly don't understand why yau5 isn't the main method for all the fast solvers. Whenever asked about it, people like Feliks sound like they really just haven't put the time/effort into getting especially fast with it. I think it has all the benefits of yau4, and the more pieces there are on the puzzle, the more the yau look ahead for edge pairing becomes useful. The only downside is the last 4 centers which can be a little difficult/tedious, but it just takes getting used to.

The first 3 cross edges are awful, too. For many people, the lookahead advantage for the edges just isn't worth dealing with the first 3 cross edges and last 4 centers, and their practice would be better spent elsewhere.

I love yau5, and I use it as my 5x5 method, but I wouldn't argue that it's better than redux, only that it's equally good. Much like 3x3 method, it's personal preference.

 

[IRNjuggle28]

I honestly don't understand why yau5 isn't the main method for all the fast solvers. Whenever asked about it, people like Feliks sound like they really just haven't put the time/effort into getting especially fast with it. I think it has all the benefits of yau4, and the more pieces there are on the puzzle, the more the yau look ahead for edge pairing becomes useful. The only downside is the last 4 centers which can be a little difficult/tedious, but it just takes getting used to.

You may be right that the method has enough of the benefits of classic Yau to be superior to reduction, but it doesn't have all the benefits, or even close to it. The bigger the cube, the more of the solve is centers and the less of it is edges. You're trading more difficult centers for easier edges, and the bigger the cube is, the less likely that is to be a good trade.