How to solve corner orientation with sune and antisune

[Lucas Garron]

Why not use sune,antisune, fat sune and fat antisune? Along with their mirrors. Even less memorizing.

Because it's easier to use your head to calculate the effect of two adjacent corner rotations (instead of three).
Wide Sunes are useful and easy to learn, but try this:

- Set up any "annoying" (2-edges flipped) OLL.
- If it has two opposite edges, figure out if one of the two AUFs for F R U R' U' F' will give you a single oriented corner.
- If it has two adjacent edges, figure out whether F U R U' R' F' or its mirror will give you a single oriented corner.

I've never really sat down to learn this, but it was so easy that I just got used to it. I can do it in a split-second now; I could describe the visual cues I use, but they're easy to derive by looking at the case.
Come to think of it, this has part of my ELS strategy for a long time. (Along with wide Sunes and whatever else I happened to know.)


Of course, if you're going to be learning full OLL anyhow, I recommend compound OLL instead. If you'll be going for speed some day, fast recognition is more important than the number of algs/moves you use.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Before spending a lot of time working on a system, think about what you're really trying to do. (Unless you just want a fun exercise.)

I was kidding when I said that the next step was doing a guide on full OLL.

But I already have a diagram on how to solve all OLLs using sune variations.

Sune Oll

RFS would be a sune starting from RF slot.
RBAS would be a antisunes from RB slot.
LBWAS would be a Fat antisune starting from the LB slot.
LFMAS would be M followed by a antisune starting from the LF slot followed by U M'.
RBMS would be M' followed by sune starting on RB followed by U' M

 

[Renslay]

I was kidding when I said that the next step was doing a guide on full OLL.

But I already have a diagram on how to solve all OLLs using sune variations.

http://webfront.com.br/suneoll/

RFS would be a sune starting from RF slot.
RBAS would be a antisunes from RB slot.
LBWAS would be a Fat antisune starting from the LB slot.
LFMAS would be M followed by a antisune starting from the LF slot followed by U M'.
RBMS would be M' followed by sune starting on RB followed by U' M

I don't get it. I have No19 (first image), so yellow stickers are BUL, UB, BUR, RU, FUR, FU, FUL, UL. The table says RFWAS RFWAS, so I guess the solution would be (Rw U R' U R U2 Rw')2, but it doesn't work.

EDIT: Oh, okay. I did RFWS, not RFWAS... so it is (Rw U2 R' U' R U' Rw')2.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I don't get it. I have No19 (first image), so yellow stickers are BUL, UB, BUR, RU, FUR, FU, FUL, UL. The table says RFWAS RFWAS, so I guess the solution would be (Rw U R' U R U2 Rw')2, but it doesn't work.

EDIT: Oh, okay. I did RFWS, not RFWAS... so it is (Rw U2 R' U' R U' Rw')2.

I admit the diagram is a mess, but I plan to choose the best sequences mannually anytime.