How to be sub 20

[ravenguild08]

How about how on getting sub-20 OH? :/

Approach OH as a separate event from 2H. The style is different where you focus on confining bursts of moves to just <R, U, L>. You should pay the most attention to edge orientation during F2L and try to solve all the edges you can in one orientation before doing a y or y' to switch to the other edges.

As Tim Major says, learn new algorithms that are better for OH, especially for the bad ones like H, V, F, Y. If you don't want to learn new OLLs, just do 2-look OLL but pick the best algs for you for EO. For example, I would probably use r U2' R' U' R U' r.
Edit: see my sig for my alg library, which I created explicitly for OH. You might need to mirror them, though

And to up your TPS, practice a lot, not just turning but also idle turning while walking around or reading or things like that. I'm still working on this aspect myself...

 

[darckhitet]

I can't get sub 20!!!

I can't get sub 20 times and i am full fridrich and know half of the COLL's

Cross: 6 seconds avg

F2L: 7 - 9 seconds avg

OLL: 3 - 4 seconds avg

PLL: 4 - 6 seconds avg

In cross - f2l transition i loss from 3 to 5 seconds

 

[UnsolvedCypher]

Practice doing the cross blindfolded, drill your OLL and PLL algs, practice lookahead, especially recognizing the OLL during your last slot F2L execution.

 

[rj]

I can't get sub 20 times and i am full fridrich and know half of the COLL's

Cross: 6 seconds avg

F2L: 7 - 9 seconds avg

OLL: 3 - 4 seconds avg

PLL: 4 - 6 seconds avg

In cross - f2l transition i loss from 3 to 5 seconds

What do you average?

 

[TheNextFeliks]

What do you average?

Looks like 20-25 to me.

So, your cross absolutely sucks. The pll is pretty bad too. Your f2l is good. I avg 16-17 and my f2l is about the same.

 

[RaresB]

I can't get sub 20 times and i am full fridrich and know half of the COLL's

Cross: 6 seconds avg

F2L: 7 - 9 seconds avg

OLL: 3 - 4 seconds avg

PLL: 4 - 6 seconds avg

In cross - f2l transition i loss from 3 to 5 seconds

Its great that you are able to identify your weaknesses but you also have to work towards making them strengths. Try practicing only cross + 1 for a while. During the cross try to either visualize where your corner edge pair will end up, track a corner edge pair or execute the cross without looking so that you can look for a corner edge pair. Your cross times also seem out of proportiom. Try to solve the cross more efficiently and memorize your cross during inspection.

 

[darckhitet]

i avg 27 but i frequently get like 5 or 6 20 - 22s solves on my avg's

 

[rj]

i avg 27 but i frequently get like 5 or 6 20 - 22s solves on my avg's

So you're about my times. Work on cross-F2L transition. Drill PLL. Work on cross.

 

[Noahaha]

6 second cross is really really bad. Try to be more efficient and at least identify the locations of the pieces in inspection.

 

[uniacto]

Full Fridrich is nice. I'm two look OLL and not full PLL, and I'm still sub 20. Work on your cross and transitions. Just drill algs for LL, if you must.

 

[ianliu64]

Work on your PLL and Cross.

 

[immortalchaos29]

That cross is going to be the easiest and fastest way for you to reduce times. Make sure you are practicing it properly. Here are some common ideas:

-Use as much time as necessary to plan the whole solution
-Don't practice other steps (just do cross+1) then rescramble
-Learn some cross finger tricks such as those Badmephisto teaches and plan finger friendly crosses (including D2 double flick, if you can't already)
-Practice BLD crosses
-As this gets easy to do, start following an f2l pair.

 

[sneaklyfox]

Your cross is very very slow compared to the rest of the solve. I bet you're not planning full cross during inspection aiming for less than 8 moves. 5.81 moves is average for single cross colour so that's like 1 move per second...

 

[AFatTick]

Spend some time planning your cross before you solve. I usually solve my cross is 1-3 seconds. It should be a simple pop-into-place with some finger tricks. Good luck.

 

[brian724080]

Try working with 2 look OLL and PLL first. You don't need COLL at this stage AT ALL.
Most importantly, your cross is horrid, sped time planning every step out and try doing it BLD, it should be well within three seconds.

 

[RubiksJake12]

I find this an appropriate place to ask. I've read not all of this thread, but a few pages. From what I gather, slowing down and being able to look ahead is going to get me sub 20. I currently spend an average of 4-5 seconds on cross, and about 10-11 seconds (average) on the rest of the f2l. That means about 14-16 seconds (average) on the f2l in general. My average for the entire cube is around 23 seconds with my bests being around 16. I'm very close to being sub 20 but have been at about 23 second average for around a month without much improvement. What would your recommendations for me be knowing my general times? I'll try to post a video if I can soon.

 

[Lchu613]

I crossed 20 seconds just by practicing really.
Also you can study how various F2L pairs can be inserted and try to find more efficient ways and stuff. Lookahead is vital, gotta be able to see your next pair.

 

[RubiksJake12]

I crossed 20 seconds just by practicing really.
Also you can study how various F2L pairs can be inserted and try to find more efficient ways and stuff. Lookahead is vital, gotta be able to see your next pair.

Was that to me? Usually I would agree, but for some reason I've been practicing for a whole month now without breaking sub 20 averages. I have been studying all that I can find for the F2L. Do you have any website suggestions? Video Suggestions? personal suggestions? I'll admit for some of the harder F2L cases I haven't learned actual algorithms. I've made up my own.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

I find this an appropriate place to ask. I've read not all of this thread, but a few pages. From what I gather, slowing down and being able to look ahead is going to get me sub 20. I currently spend an average of 4-5 seconds on cross, and about 10-11 seconds (average) on the rest of the f2l. That means about 14-16 seconds (average) on the f2l in general. My average for the entire cube is around 23 seconds with my bests being around 16. I'm very close to being sub 20 but have been at about 23 second average for around a month without much improvement. What would your recommendations for me be knowing my general times? I'll try to post a video if I can soon.

Your cross is bad. Try to plan it all out in inspection.

 

[TDM]

I find this an appropriate place to ask. I've read not all of this thread, but a few pages. From what I gather, slowing down and being able to look ahead is going to get me sub 20. I currently spend an average of 4-5 seconds on cross, and about 10-11 seconds (average) on the rest of the f2l. That means about 14-16 seconds (average) on the f2l in general. My average for the entire cube is around 23 seconds with my bests being around 16. I'm very close to being sub 20 but have been at about 23 second average for around a month without much improvement. What would your recommendations for me be knowing my general times? I'll try to post a video if I can soon.

Your cross is definitely too slow. Your LL is fine; mine is the same speed and I have a sub-10 F2L. Try to plan cross in inspection and get it 8 moves or less every time. Try to find fast solutions as well as short ones. Also, try looking ahead more during F2L; if you can eliminate (or even just reduce) pauses that'll help your times by a lot.