RyanReese09
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You could wait. Just start learning whenever you feel like it. It really doesn't matter.
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How to be sub 20
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You could wait. Just start learning whenever you feel like it. It really doesn't matter.
Rpotts
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atleast learn easy ones like the easy C shape, big lightning and the fat sune family. The sooner you start learning them the sooner they will feel comfortable in solves i.e. help you get faster.
Selkie
Premium Member
As other said when you are comfortable. The task of learning full OLL looks daunting but it really isn't if taken slowly. I started full OLL after learning PLL and it took me about 6 weeks. I limited myself to 1 OLL a day (2 if it was a mirror). Personally I started with dot cases (which in reality is 3 look in 2 look!), there are also a large number of very easy cases (Wide Sunes, C's, etc that will give you a quick win for little memorisation)
The advantage of starting earlier is then your OLL recognition, execution, and overall experience etc will scale with your other skills when practicing. The later you start the later you take a hit to your times and a bigger effect that hit will have.
I am seeing faster improvement now that I have in a couple of months. I put that down to finishing full OLL about 2 months ago and the majority of them being firmly in muscle memory. In fact I miss learning algs now so am going to be starting on VHF2L in the nerxt coupel of weeks
The advise I would give though is do not rely on a single site for your algs. I did this initially and had to relearn 8 OLLs as they suited me better. There are two more (1+mirror) I want to change this week, then I will be happy. Use the Wiki here to choose the best algs for you from the outset.
And best of luck if you choose to take the OLL plunge
The advantage of starting earlier is then your OLL recognition, execution, and overall experience etc will scale with your other skills when practicing. The later you start the later you take a hit to your times and a bigger effect that hit will have.
I am seeing faster improvement now that I have in a couple of months. I put that down to finishing full OLL about 2 months ago and the majority of them being firmly in muscle memory. In fact I miss learning algs now so am going to be starting on VHF2L in the nerxt coupel of weeks
The advise I would give though is do not rely on a single site for your algs. I did this initially and had to relearn 8 OLLs as they suited me better. There are two more (1+mirror) I want to change this week, then I will be happy. Use the Wiki here to choose the best algs for you from the outset.
And best of luck if you choose to take the OLL plunge
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Mal
Veteran
Thankyou for this I have been having trouble with my F2L it takes me way to long so thankyou.
Do blind folded cross if you find that your cross isn't fast enough for you.
But 6 seconds is quite slow, you should be able to solve it in under 8 moves, and 4~5 seconds.
But aim for your F2L, F2L is the most important thing in my view, if you've got a fast F2L, then you've got a fast solve.
rubiksnerd246
Member
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thanks ive been trying SO much to get sub 20 and this has helped alot
Gorpendor
Member
thanks. i bet this is gonna help.
Jaycee
Veteran
Stuck in front of 20 seconds, Help?
Well, I've been cubing since late January this year, and my solves mostly average anywhere between 20 and 31 seconds. My personal best is 20.11 (lol). No matter how hard I try, I just can't sub 20! I've had full PLL memorized for months now, although I do need new algs for 3 or 4 cases. I'm over halfway to having full OLL done, and most of my algs suit me nicely. I've figured out a few F2L cases myself, but for the most part my F2L is slow and my cross is average at best. My question is : should I continue with full OLL, or should I cover up my weak spot and learn intuitive F2L and X-Cross?
Oh, by the way : new user here. Ask any questions! xD
Well, I've been cubing since late January this year, and my solves mostly average anywhere between 20 and 31 seconds. My personal best is 20.11 (lol). No matter how hard I try, I just can't sub 20! I've had full PLL memorized for months now, although I do need new algs for 3 or 4 cases. I'm over halfway to having full OLL done, and most of my algs suit me nicely. I've figured out a few F2L cases myself, but for the most part my F2L is slow and my cross is average at best. My question is : should I continue with full OLL, or should I cover up my weak spot and learn intuitive F2L and X-Cross?
Oh, by the way : new user here. Ask any questions! xD
yockee
Veteran
First of all, I spent like, 8 months stuck at 22, so don't worry. Most people find the sub 20 barrier the hardest to break. Second, which algs do you need to replace for PLL? I have some great ones. I've switched algs several times over the years, and feel confident that you would like the ones I give you. Also, I would put OLL on hold for now, and just practice F2L including cross. It will be the thing that makes or breaks your times, really. Oh, and don't waste your time worrying about X-cross. Just work on looking ahead and slowing down.
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RTh
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@ Jaycee, solve slower, look-ahead, use intuitive F2L. Practice everyday and try to shave seconds off steadily.
Just practice.
Also a good cube will be a good idea. Like a Guhong or Zhanchi.
Just practice.
Also a good cube will be a good idea. Like a Guhong or Zhanchi.
Jaycee
Veteran
Slight problem with that : my dad refuses to buy me a new cube. :/ We tried to get a black Guhong DIY a couple weeks ago from cubeforyou, but according to him the only way you can pay there is with a PayPal account, which he doesn't have. Believe it or not, I'm actually getting these times on a store-bought Transformers cube that's extremely broken in and that I replaced the stickers on.
@yockee Thanks. I think what I'll do is memorize 2 more OLLs and then work on cross and F2L. Right now i'm looking through the wiki here for new PLL algs, and I'm actually finding some ones that, with a little practice, I could be better with than the ones I've been using for months! T_T I appreciate the help
@yockee Thanks. I think what I'll do is memorize 2 more OLLs and then work on cross and F2L. Right now i'm looking through the wiki here for new PLL algs, and I'm actually finding some ones that, with a little practice, I could be better with than the ones I've been using for months! T_T I appreciate the help
H
Hershey
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You could buy a cube at a competition if someone is selling one.
WhiteKiwi
Member
OMG this was sooooooo helpful!!!
Just after I read the thread i did an average of 5 and i got 19.02))
Just after I read the thread i did an average of 5 and i got 19.02
))Datak
Regular
I also have a question, I am averaging around 20 seconds and I just started doing look ahead. to get faster. Any ideas to help me?
curtishousley
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I have a question about slowing down for F2L, to help with look ahead. My average is 45 seconds, when I slow down for the F2L it slows down my times drastically, it seems that when I try to do look ahead it just confuses me a lot more. Is it something that would help me in the long run to keep trying? Maybe its similar to when I first learned F2L, I was much slower till I got familiar with doing it. Thanks
Rpotts
Veteran
this is correct. Practice.
Trying anything new will likely slow you down at first.
Force yourself to not look at the f2l pieces you are solving, look at the rest of the cube and try to find at least one unsolved piece and track it.
Good luck.
CuberOz
Member
I have just finished learning all the PLLs should i look to refine my F2L or learn the rest of the OLLs?
SkaterFly
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Refine your F2L is what most people would say, definitely. You can start slowly learning some/the easy OLLs, but F2L is mainly what makes your times so high. I'd say learn full OLL when you're at least sub 25
PandaCuber
Veteran
Okay, Ive finished with my PLL. Should I learn all the F2L algorithms or find better intuitive moves?
