How can I improve at Roux?

[Roux]

I’m going to my first comp soon and am hoping to be able to get a sub 15 average there.

My PBs:
13.17 ao5
9.29 single

I know full CMLL.
How can I improve quickly enough to achieve a global sub-15 average?

 

[-Cube Kid-]

I’m going to my first comp soon and am hoping to be able to get a sub 15 average there.

My PBs:
13.17 ao5
9.29 single

I know full CMLL.
How can I improve quickly enough to achieve a global sub-15 average?

I don't do Roux, but I would work on tps. (Roux has low tps)

 

[Mr.Ducky]

I think trying to recognize cases faster and having much longer inspection time or trying to solve a block just by inspection or maybe even some of the next block would really help you with the first steps since you already got cmll I dont think you'll need much help on last layer but learn fingertricks too and avoid regrips and stuff
Ylu know what I mean like be smooth in your solves too dont panick dont stress dont be too fast to the point it causes lockups and mistakes

 

[acrystal]

I’m going to my first comp soon and am hoping to be able to get a sub 15 average there.

My PBs:
13.17 ao5
9.29 single

I know full CMLL.
How can I improve quickly enough to achieve a global sub-15 average?

Im not sub-15, but practice daily
And good luck for your comp

 

[Roux]

Thanks!

 

[Roux]

I don't do Roux, but I would work on tps. (Roux has low tps)

That’s a good point! A Kian Mansour video says that you need at least 3.3 tps to get sub-15, and I average 4.7 tps.

 

[Roux]

I think trying to recognize cases faster and having much longer inspection time or trying to solve a block just by inspection or maybe even some of the next block would really help you with the first steps since you already got cmll I dont think you'll need much help on last layer but learn fingertricks too and avoid regrips and stuff
Ylu know what I mean like be smooth in your solves too dont panick dont stress dont be too fast to the point it causes lockups and mistakes

Yeah, reducing regroups is pretty helpful, as is inspection depth. Shame that roux has the m u regrip

 

[abunickabhi]

I’m going to my first comp soon and am hoping to be able to get a sub 15 average there.

My PBs:
13.17 ao5
9.29 single

I know full CMLL.
How can I improve quickly enough to achieve a global sub-15 average?

Good luck for your first comp!

Did you record your solves?

 

[CrossPetrus]

Do you know your splits? There might be 1 step that’s dragging behind the others, and you should work on that. I’d suggest making sure your lse is efficient enough, and that your sb pairs are good.

 

[Brouxt Force]

Context: I average around 9 seconds with Roux.

If you post a video recording of some of your solves, I can definitely give more specific advice. For now, I'll just give a few general tips:

• Pauses are slow; try to keep your turning fluid. This is especially important between first and second blocks, and having good inspection can really help with completely eliminating any pause moving into second block. Ideally, you would be able to plan the entirety of first block plus the DR edge in inspection, but this is not required (this is something that I still need to work on myself). Note: Pausing right before CMLL and before LSE is completely fine, as these pauses are quite difficult to eliminate.
  
  
• For CMLL recognition, it's ideal if you can immediately recognize which case you have without AUFing or moving your head (J Perm calls this "double recognition", where you need to recognize the case multiple times before you actually know what it is). To avoid double recognition, you'll need to know how to recognize each case from every angle (and this is reminding me that I still double recognize every time I get a sune or antisune...).
  
  
• Start learning EOLR if you haven't already (Kian Mansour has some videos on this). EOLR can make your LSE way more efficient (and thus be significantly faster). For 6-Flip, I would recommend Kavin's video. Note: You'll need to learn how to handle misoriented centers in LSE if you don't it yet.

Nothing I mentioned above is strictly necessary for sub 15, but at the very least you should keep all of this in mind as you continue to improve.

If you have any questions about anything I said above or about Roux in general, feel free to ask.

 

[artless1der]

KCheck out the Youtube video tutorials from KIAN MANSOUR and Kavin Tangtartharakul​

... easily two of the best ROUX solvers I've ever seen yet, and their videos are
clear, lucid, super informative wonderful tutorials from Beginner to Advanced levels​

 

[Roux]

Context: I average around 9 seconds with Roux.

If you post a video recording of some of your solves, I can definitely give more specific advice. For now, I'll just give a few general tips:

• Pauses are slow; try to keep your turning fluid. This is especially important between first and second blocks, and having good inspection can really help with completely eliminating any pause moving into second block. Ideally, you would be able to plan the entirety of first block plus the DR edge in inspection, but this is not required (this is something that I still need to work on myself). Note: Pausing right before CMLL and before LSE is completely fine, as these pauses are quite difficult to eliminate.
  
  
• For CMLL recognition, it's ideal if you can immediately recognize which case you have without AUFing or moving your head (J Perm calls this "double recognition", where you need to recognize the case multiple times before you actually know what it is). To avoid double recognition, you'll need to know how to recognize each case from every angle (and this is reminding me that I still double recognize every time I get a sune or antisune...).
  
  
• Start learning EOLR if you haven't already (Kian Mansour has some videos on this). EOLR can make your LSE way more efficient (and thus be significantly faster). For 6-Flip, I would recommend Kavin's video. Note: You'll need to learn how to handle misoriented centers in LSE if you don't it yet.

Nothing I mentioned above is strictly necessary for sub 15, but at the very least you should keep all of this in mind as you continue to improve.

If you have any questions about anything I said above or about Roux in general, feel free to ask.

Can’t import a video but I can tell you the scramble and my solution

 

[Roux]

Scramble: B U D' L D2 B2 F' D R' L' F2 R' U D' L U' L B L2 U

Didn’t do any inspection rotations.

FB: D’ R2 U2 F’ R B’ U’ r U r’ B (abnormally long FB for me)

SB: r U R2 U’ M’ U2 r’ U’ R U R’ U M’ U’ M2 R U’ R’

CMLL: U F’ r U r’ U2 L U2 L’

LSE: U’ M’ U2 M U2 M U M U’ M2 U M U2 M U2

 

[OreKehStrah]

Scramble: B U D' L D2 B2 F' D R' L' F2 R' U D' L U' L B L2 U

Didn’t do any inspection rotations.

FB: D’ R2 U2 F’ R B’ U’ r U r’ B (abnormally long FB for me)

SB: r U R2 U’ M’ U2 r’ U’ R U R’ U M’ U’ M2 R U’ R’

CMLL: U F’ r U r’ U2 L U2 L’

LSE: U’ M’ U2 M U2 M U M U’ M2 U M U2 M U2

For FB, you can do D2 L U2 F’ D to create the same block more efficiently

 

[Roux]

How did you figure that out!?

 

[Roux]

There are no tutorials I’ve found on YouTube to make my FB more efficient

 

[Renslay]

For FB, you can do D2 L U2 F’ D to create the same block more efficiently

Why not this?

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F R r2' u

 

[Brouxt Force]

Can’t import a video but I can tell you the scramble and my solution

Just note that there important things missing in a reconstruction that would be present in a video, like for example fingertricks and pauses.

Scramble: B U D' L D2 B2 F' D R' L' F2 R' U D' L U' L B L2 U

Didn’t do any inspection rotations.

FB: D’ R2 U2 F’ R B’ U’ r U r’ B (abnormally long FB for me)

SB: r U R2 U’ M’ U2 r’ U’ R U R’ U M’ U’ M2 R U’ R’

CMLL: U F’ r U r’ U2 L U2 L’

LSE: U’ M’ U2 M U2 M U M U’ M2 U M U2 M U2

Your reconstruction doesn't seem to lead to a solved cube, so I can't comment too much on the reconstruction past the first block.

Comments on FB:

When you start with D', you insert the white-green-orange corner solved into FB without its corresponding edge. Instead of the immediate D', you could look for a way to insert orange-green edge before the D', which would solve your FB first square.

I see two ways to do this in two moves: R' B2, or D2 L. After R' B2 D', the FB pair that remains is not great. However, After D2 L, you may notice that we have the same predicament: After we finish the first square with D, we have the solved white-orange-blue corner in its slot without its corresponding edge. So, before the D, again we want to look for a way to insert the blue-orange edge without messing anything up. This can be done in two moves with a U2 F'. So, the entire solution would be D2 L U2 F' D, which also happens to be a 5 move solution. You can also think of this solution as building a line (I put Iuri's video on this below).

Also note: Your solution to FB last pair (after D' R2 U2 F') is 7 moves, R B' U' r U r' B. A shorter solution to this case would be R' u R' u'.

There are no tutorials I’ve found on YouTube to make my FB more efficient

This website has several trainers for FB and the other steps that could help you find more efficient solutions in your solves (Just note that the move optimal solution may not be the fastest solution overall). I've been using FB (Fixed) to try to get better at finding whole FB solutions, but the other options for FB can also be quite useful for improvement, so you should probably check them all out.

As for some videos on YouTube that can help with your FB efficiency:
Example solves: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBHocHmPzgIjAxbZuzs1cWGLqCxykhOyz
FB Line:

 

[Roux]

Just note that there important things missing in a reconstruction that would be present in a video, like for example fingertricks and pauses.


Your reconstruction doesn't seem to lead to a solved cube, so I can't comment too much on the reconstruction past the first block.

Comments on FB:

When you start with D', you insert the white-green-orange corner solved into FB without its corresponding edge. Instead of the immediate D', you could look for a way to insert orange-green edge before the D', which would solve your FB first square.

I see two ways to do this in two moves: R' B2, or D2 L. After R' B2 D', the FB pair that remains is not great. However, After D2 L, you may notice that we have the same predicament: After we finish the first square with D, we have the solved white-orange-blue corner in its slot without its corresponding edge. So, before the D, again we want to look for a way to insert the blue-orange edge without messing anything up. This can be done in two moves with a U2 F'. So, the entire solution would be D2 L U2 F' D, which also happens to be a 5 move solution. You can also think of this solution as building a line (I put Iuri's video on this below).

Also note: Your solution to FB last pair (after D' R2 U2 F') is 7 moves, R B' U' r U r' B. A shorter solution to this case would be R' u R' u'.


This website has several trainers for FB and the other steps that could help you find more efficient solutions in your solves (Just note that the move optimal solution may not be the fastest solution overall). I've been using FB (Fixed) to try to get better at finding whole FB solutions, but the other options for FB can also be quite useful for improvement, so you should probably check them all out.

As for some videos on YouTube that can help with your FB efficiency:
Example solves: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBHocHmPzgIjAxbZuzs1cWGLqCxykhOyz
FB Line:

Really sorry! Must’ve typed the notation wrong, thanks so much for giving me some resources on how to improve FB! I’ve been needing to improve for quite some time now.