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I didn't keep track but probably around 2 weeks(I live in Australia) from release.
"Funs Puzzle" 方是(fangshi) new 3x3
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I bought a DIY and am happy with it. I think it has a lot to do with how you assemble it, especially when you thread the core.
If you fail during the assembly its obvious the cube will suck. I prefer a DIY because I can lube it right away while I tension it.
If you trust your skills to assemble a 3x3, buy a DIY. If not, buy an assembled one. DIYs fit through a letterbox though, they don't usually send them as a package.
If you fail during the assembly its obvious the cube will suck. I prefer a DIY because I can lube it right away while I tension it.
If you trust your skills to assemble a 3x3, buy a DIY. If not, buy an assembled one. DIYs fit through a letterbox though, they don't usually send them as a package.
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I bought an assembled Guhong v2 from iCubemart and the people who delivered it to me just forced it in the letterbox. Pretty stupid IMO.
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DIY and love it! 
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After realising it's awful you bought another one? Wow is it really a lot better? What could it be that made them different..?
If I can't make good use of it I'll probably give it away or something and sign it maybe. Lubing doesn't help and it's just too locky. I will give disassembly a go and maybe I can inspect the pieces...
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The problem with the Fangshi is that the quality control is bad. You most likely just got a defective cube. Whether you wanna risk getting another crap cube or not is entirely up to you.
... Oh yeah, signed cube for me pl0x
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Sign a cube for mee!
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Honestly I think its for the new cubers the ones that are just transitioning from the original Rubik's cube and looking for something a little bit more fast, its not as good as a Dayan ZhanChi and honestly no matter how much I break it in it will never be, its a new cube with flaws if they make a V2 it might turn out better they might make slight changes that make it better than what it is now, I'm sure they look here and see what other people think, and they consider all of these comments and want to make the cube better in the long run.
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Wasn't this supposed to be an unpoppable cube? Mine has popped a few times already
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Did anyone say it was supposed to be unpoppable? Also, were you turning it roughly?
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I don't turn really rough. I think i saw someone said that it's unpoppable... Not sure.
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You're right
clicketywoowooPS SIGNED CUBE FOR ME PLZ 5BLD I'll give you cuddles at Cambridge (= competitive advantage)
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You're right
I was talking about someone on the forums, since I don't always trust CBC's videos. Especially when it's a prototype, it might be different.
anyway, update on the cube itself.
I've broken it in a bit more, it now has about 350-400 solves done, and it's getting better. I wiped a little bit of the 10k diff oil out, but left a bit in, and it made it a bit better. It's really smooth, doesn't lock up, and doesn't have that scratchy feel anymore. The bad things are the popping and the corner twists.
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I have screwed in the screws a lot more. Up to the point where 45 degrees corner cut is not easy anymore. It does not affect the speed (or sensation) but it gets rid of all corner twists and pops. I have not had one pop or twist in about 500 solves.
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This will be my written review on the ShuangRen.
To start, I bought mine as a preorder from 51morefun. The shipping was free and thus took 15 days to arrive. A further three days was required to retrieve it from the post office as nobody was home to pick it up.
The box was damaged but the contents were fine. Everything was there and no pieces were missing. I had an extra spring and washer in the bag. Unlike other people's my DIY came with no flash with the exception of the core and tiny pieces inside the hollowed out pieces. I sanded down the flash off the core but apart from that, no other modifications were necessary.
Assembly:
I followed CBC's tutorial for lubricating the core etc. The two centre pieces are a bit annoying because they keep falling apart when I try to take off the centre caps. I may super glue them together later.
The two edge pieces were easy to put together, putting on the caps however was a little trickier. Just apply some force onto the sharp edge and it should snap in quite easily without letting it bulge. My fingers hurt a little bit afterwards
The cube is a little harder to put together than a zhanchi. Here is the key detail:
Which core should you use?
When I first assembled the cube I screwed the centres into a zhanchi core from one of my non-mains (IE: a C4U core). The screws fit in well (much easier than the f/s core), however when the cube was put together one entire face instantly exploded. I felt a bit perturbed as I expected it to be unpoppable. Of course I went on to tighten the cube and it seemed to work better. Or so I thought.
One face's screw was loosening by itself. I found that I could do about 5-10 solves before that face became so loose that the cube would explode. I would have to tighten just that one face. Eventually the problem got so bad that I simply put it back into it's proper core. The problem has since been eradicated. Initially I thought it was because the threads on that screw had been stripped, but it must have been the core. I believe this is because the screws went in far too easily into the core. In a f/s core it's harder to screw the screws in, thus they won't be coming out slightly every time you do a turn.
Take dayan screws, the threads on them are far longer than on f/s screws, thus they probably won't unscrew by themselves when in a slightly wider core.
Review
In my opinion this cube is arguably better than a zhanchi. Mine is lubed only in the core for the pieces do not need it (as many have stated here). I've done several averages from my main zhanchi and then onto the shaungren. I found that my main performed far better, however this was only because I alternated solves between the cubes. So I tried something different. I did full averages on both. I found I was a whole second faster on the shuangren than on my main zhanchis (I averaged mid to high 16's compared to high 17's on my zhanchi).
Here is a breakdown on some specifications for the cube:
Corner cutting: Over 45 degrees when tensioned properly, about the same as a zhanchi.
Reverse cutting: At the same tensions as above, a little less than a zhanchi.
Speed: Despite being scratchy (similiar to a wittwo) it possesses extremely fast speed, about the same as a zhanchi.
Pops: Unpoppable at the right tensions. Don't try and make it cut over 50 degrees, you will sacrifice one of the most important factors of this cube.
Stickers:Shades are better than standard dayan shades, however red and orange are extremely thin and you can see the cube. I'd resticker. (I got full brights).
TL;DR: When you first get the cube you probably won't find it as good as a zhanchi/guhong. This may be due to it being extremely light, true I still find it awkward to go to the shaungren after doing a couple solves on my old zhanchis. But give it a good few hundred solves an you may see your times drop and the cube fast become your main
Ben
To start, I bought mine as a preorder from 51morefun. The shipping was free and thus took 15 days to arrive. A further three days was required to retrieve it from the post office as nobody was home to pick it up.
The box was damaged but the contents were fine. Everything was there and no pieces were missing. I had an extra spring and washer in the bag. Unlike other people's my DIY came with no flash with the exception of the core and tiny pieces inside the hollowed out pieces. I sanded down the flash off the core but apart from that, no other modifications were necessary.
Assembly:
I followed CBC's tutorial for lubricating the core etc. The two centre pieces are a bit annoying because they keep falling apart when I try to take off the centre caps. I may super glue them together later.
The two edge pieces were easy to put together, putting on the caps however was a little trickier. Just apply some force onto the sharp edge and it should snap in quite easily without letting it bulge. My fingers hurt a little bit afterwards
The cube is a little harder to put together than a zhanchi. Here is the key detail:
Which core should you use?
When I first assembled the cube I screwed the centres into a zhanchi core from one of my non-mains (IE: a C4U core). The screws fit in well (much easier than the f/s core), however when the cube was put together one entire face instantly exploded. I felt a bit perturbed as I expected it to be unpoppable. Of course I went on to tighten the cube and it seemed to work better. Or so I thought.
One face's screw was loosening by itself. I found that I could do about 5-10 solves before that face became so loose that the cube would explode. I would have to tighten just that one face. Eventually the problem got so bad that I simply put it back into it's proper core. The problem has since been eradicated. Initially I thought it was because the threads on that screw had been stripped, but it must have been the core. I believe this is because the screws went in far too easily into the core. In a f/s core it's harder to screw the screws in, thus they won't be coming out slightly every time you do a turn.
Take dayan screws, the threads on them are far longer than on f/s screws, thus they probably won't unscrew by themselves when in a slightly wider core.
Review
In my opinion this cube is arguably better than a zhanchi. Mine is lubed only in the core for the pieces do not need it (as many have stated here). I've done several averages from my main zhanchi and then onto the shaungren. I found that my main performed far better, however this was only because I alternated solves between the cubes. So I tried something different. I did full averages on both. I found I was a whole second faster on the shuangren than on my main zhanchis (I averaged mid to high 16's compared to high 17's on my zhanchi).
Here is a breakdown on some specifications for the cube:
Corner cutting: Over 45 degrees when tensioned properly, about the same as a zhanchi.
Reverse cutting: At the same tensions as above, a little less than a zhanchi.
Speed: Despite being scratchy (similiar to a wittwo) it possesses extremely fast speed, about the same as a zhanchi.
Pops: Unpoppable at the right tensions. Don't try and make it cut over 50 degrees, you will sacrifice one of the most important factors of this cube.
Stickers:Shades are better than standard dayan shades, however red and orange are extremely thin and you can see the cube. I'd resticker. (I got full brights).
TL;DR: When you first get the cube you probably won't find it as good as a zhanchi/guhong. This may be due to it being extremely light, true I still find it awkward to go to the shaungren after doing a couple solves on my old zhanchis. But give it a good few hundred solves an you may see your times drop and the cube fast become your main
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Nice review!
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I have some questions and comments:
@PeelingStickers: I'm slightly unsure what your review is recommending for a core. You mention trying the Zhanchi core, the issues that had, then switching back to the original core, but I can't really tell what your conclusion is on the ideal core or what effects either have on the puzzle. Maybe you could clarify?
I've had my white ShuangRen for a few days now, and so far I'm quite loving the cube. The "scratchy" or "matte" feeling of the turning is diminishing the more I put time into it, to the point that I would expect after a month or two it may eventually lose that particular sound and feel altogether.
My main curiosity is in relation to some of the many reviews and comments by people here talking about how "easy" it is to turn; that is to say, some people actually complain that it is difficult to get used to because it is so easy to overturn, or can spin too freely with a flick that it becomes uncontrollable. This is actually pretty confusing to me, because my ShuangRen, though it turns very "smoothly," does not even come close to exhibiting those qualities. The "initial force" required to turn a face is fairly considerable in comparison to my main cube (a LingYun V2) and when doing flicks of the U or D face, the maximum possible turn I can achieve is about 1 and 1/4th (i.e. about a U and a little under a cubie), and that is when using quite a lot of force above and beyond what I would comfortably perform while solving normally.
That's not to say the cube doesn't turn smoothly, because when actually solving and actively turning a side the result is very smooth and even, but it is certainly orders of magnitude slower than my main cube. I have my LingYun tensioned just such that it has that "uncontrollable" feel that some people describe, where U2 flicks are extremely easy and sides can essentially spin unhindered for a while if spun with force. I would love to get the ShuangRen to that same configuration, but I can't really seem to manage it yet.
As others have said, lubricants really seem to have negligible impact on the pieces, and besides for the core don't really seem necessary. I'm wondering if anyone could give me any suggestions on getting a more lose and fast feel with the cube. I've tried a number of tensions, both very tight and as I currently have it which is about as loose as it can get without the screws pushing out the center caps. I'm skeptical as to the possible effects of a new core, but I do have a Zhanchi and Guhong V2 which I could cannibalize, if that truly has a significant effect on the puzzle quality.
@PeelingStickers: I'm slightly unsure what your review is recommending for a core. You mention trying the Zhanchi core, the issues that had, then switching back to the original core, but I can't really tell what your conclusion is on the ideal core or what effects either have on the puzzle. Maybe you could clarify?
I've had my white ShuangRen for a few days now, and so far I'm quite loving the cube. The "scratchy" or "matte" feeling of the turning is diminishing the more I put time into it, to the point that I would expect after a month or two it may eventually lose that particular sound and feel altogether.
My main curiosity is in relation to some of the many reviews and comments by people here talking about how "easy" it is to turn; that is to say, some people actually complain that it is difficult to get used to because it is so easy to overturn, or can spin too freely with a flick that it becomes uncontrollable. This is actually pretty confusing to me, because my ShuangRen, though it turns very "smoothly," does not even come close to exhibiting those qualities. The "initial force" required to turn a face is fairly considerable in comparison to my main cube (a LingYun V2) and when doing flicks of the U or D face, the maximum possible turn I can achieve is about 1 and 1/4th (i.e. about a U and a little under a cubie), and that is when using quite a lot of force above and beyond what I would comfortably perform while solving normally.
That's not to say the cube doesn't turn smoothly, because when actually solving and actively turning a side the result is very smooth and even, but it is certainly orders of magnitude slower than my main cube. I have my LingYun tensioned just such that it has that "uncontrollable" feel that some people describe, where U2 flicks are extremely easy and sides can essentially spin unhindered for a while if spun with force. I would love to get the ShuangRen to that same configuration, but I can't really seem to manage it yet.
As others have said, lubricants really seem to have negligible impact on the pieces, and besides for the core don't really seem necessary. I'm wondering if anyone could give me any suggestions on getting a more lose and fast feel with the cube. I've tried a number of tensions, both very tight and as I currently have it which is about as loose as it can get without the screws pushing out the center caps. I'm skeptical as to the possible effects of a new core, but I do have a Zhanchi and Guhong V2 which I could cannibalize, if that truly has a significant effect on the puzzle quality.
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