"Funs Puzzle" 方是(fangshi) new 3x3

windhero said:
An assembly video. Basically shows how to assemble the core so that it wont get twisted and other stuff like a good way to sticker the puzzle. You can look at the description for quick links to certain parts of the video.
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Can't watch the video - it's private ;)
 
Tip for making screwing in the screws straight easier: use a short (stubby) screwdriver, rather than one with a long metal section, as it will reduce the wobble factor as you screw the screws into the core (and use the other good tip that a few of here have already mentioned - screw the screws in without centre pieces the first time).

In case I'm not describing that well enough, check out the following photos - I mean use this size:

http://www.wassco.com/prodimagefolders/03/WAS-03-29260.jpg

Not this:
http://www.portalloy.com.ph/upload_images/4ba428a00aa300153-33C.jpg
 
I just got my cube and I really like it. It has a different feel that I find unique and very refreshing to have when solving. I will see how it is after lubrication but it definitely has potential to be my main (currently a fangcun with dayan hardware which is still a very good cube).
 
I've now spent several hours of potential practice time messing with the Fangshi instead of practicing. I've messed extensively with the tensions, done a load of solves with no lube except for screws/springs, and eventually lubed the pieces by rubbing 50k on my fingers and smearing the pieces, and done a load of solves like that too.

My verdict: it's good but flawed. It has a nice smooth feel when cornering and I can see why people have said it's as good as the Zhanchi, in that respect. It's not as clicky in that because it takes the corners smoothly, the pieces don't snap together from distended positions as much. The thing I don't like is the high-friction material. Although lube improved it, it feels slow and the noise is irritating and gives a cheap feel. Some people have said it's fast, but whatever I do I can't make it fast enough, and I'm not even a fast cuber.

If they made this cube from the same smooth plastic as Dayans, and got rid of the holes to make it more lube-friendly, I reckon this could be a real killer cube. In the meantime, I prefer my Zhanchi, although I will still use the Fangshi if it's the closest cube to hand. All personal opinion, of course...
 
I've had mine now for four days and done roughly 500 solves on it. I'm completely underwhelmed. I've tried all different tensions and lubes.
When I was assembling mine, I thought it looked kind of similar to the Type C IV mech. They look, feel and even sound similar IMO.

The looser I set the tensions the faster it gets, but the trade-off is the corners twist and pops become more frequent. When lockups happen, it gets this giant bulge and when it pops it explodes.
If I want to avoid twists and pops, I have to tighten the cube up, but then the cube becomes super slow.

It's one of those cases where I could put time and effort into doing another 500 solves with the hopes that it will get better, or just go back to my main (Zhanchi).

But reading through the reviews, people seem super happy and say it's faster than their Zhanchi. I must have received a bad one because mine is a total downer.
 
LarryLunchmeat said:
I've had mine now for four days and done roughly 500 solves on it. I'm completely underwhelmed. I've tried all different tensions and lubes.
When I was assembling mine, I thought it looked kind of similar to the Type C IV mech. They look, feel and even sound similar IMO.

The looser I set the tensions the faster it gets, but the trade-off is the corners twist and pops become more frequent. When lockups happen, it gets this giant bulge and when it pops it explodes.
If I want to avoid twists and pops, I have to tighten the cube up, but then the cube becomes super slow.

It's one of those cases where I could put time and effort into doing another 500 solves with the hopes that it will get better, or just go back to my main (Zhanchi).

But reading through the reviews, people seem super happy and say it's faster than their Zhanchi. I must have received a bad one because mine is a total downer.
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Is it possible you just didn't find the sweet spot for tensions? I heard a couple places that said that part was tricky to find.
 
YddEd said:
And that's probably why people say to not put much lube in the cube.
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Lube improves it. The holes mean that lube doesn't spread well if you put blobs in, and if you put too much it will collect in the holes and make it sticky. That is why I smeared all the pieces individually.
 
mark49152 said:
Lube improves it. The holes mean that lube doesn't spread well if you put blobs in, and if you put too much it will collect in the holes and make it sticky. That is why I smeared all the pieces individually.
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You can lube it, just not with sticky lubes. Shock oil for one works well, as does Maru lube. I'm not yet quite sure whether the holes in the edge pieces for example are for better performance or for cheaper production. Doesnt matter which of the two it is, it's unlikely FangShi is going to change it.
 
windhero said:
You can lube it, just not with sticky lubes. Shock oil for one works well, as does Maru lube.
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I used 50k diff oil and it is fine as long as it is applied as I said, by smearing the pieces directly. I used a small amount, just enough to make the pieces greasy. The problem is not that 50k doesn't work, it's that it doesn't spread well, so you have to spread it yourself.

The cube is still not great though. I'm unlikely to buy lighter lube just to see if it can rescue the Fangshi.
 
mark49152 said:
I used 50k diff oil and it is fine as long as it is applied as I said, by smearing the pieces directly. I used a small amount, just enough to make the pieces greasy. The problem is not that 50k doesn't work, it's that it doesn't spread well, so you have to spread it yourself.

The cube is still not great though. I'm unlikely to buy lighter lube just to see if it can rescue the Fangshi.
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I'm pretty sure you have the tensions wrong if its too slow. Another option is that you misthreaded the core and misaligned it. My FangShi with stock hardware turns 200 degrees with a flick, more than a U2 flick. My FangShi with a C4U core and much tighter tensions turns 160 degrees with the same force, not quite a U2 flick.

Both cut 45 degrees without any force at all.
 
Possibly. I've adjusted the tensions plenty. The core is fine - as straight as any of my other cubes, although it was much more difficult to get it that way. I think you're probably right that some of those who have "duds" have misalignment issues.

Mine will also flick ~180 and I can flick 90's with the same accuracy and force as my Dayans, so I guess if we're going to objectively measure "fast" that way, there's nothing wrong with it; I just don't enjoy the rough friction-like feel as much as the smoothness of a well lubed Dayan.
 
sneaklyfox said:
Is it possible you just didn't find the sweet spot for tensions? I heard a couple places that said that part was tricky to find.
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I spent half a day playing with tensions. I've tried everything from rock tight to so loose it was falling apart and everything in between. Mine moves like a C-IV. It takes effort to make a 90 degree turn and you have to push it the entire way. Almost like there's a lot of contact that causes friction inside the cube. I think I'm going to order another one because there are A LOT of people that say this thing is fast and the odds are I got a dud.
 
LarryLunchmeat said:
I spent half a day playing with tensions. I've tried everything from rock tight to so loose it was falling apart and everything in between. Mine moves like a C-IV. It takes effort to make a 90 degree turn and you have to push it the entire way. Almost like there's a lot of contact that causes friction inside the cube. I think I'm going to order another one because there are A LOT of people that say this thing is fast and the odds are I got a dud.
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And since other people got a DIY, you should probably get a DIY.
 
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