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Fridrich Method

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Kirjava

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Alright Kirjava, :)
could you please be so kind to go into details (if possible with sources);
what is already known (and to whom), what is incorrect?

I'd rather not humour you. Some of the attributions are simply absurd.

It's funny that you dislike plagiarism. Here's the site you took most of this information off without credit.

I think corners first was Erno Rubik's original method, but I could be wrong.

Little information is known, but from what I've seen it was somewhat similar to waterman's system.
 

notCanada

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Hello speedsolving.com's minister of public enlightenment and propaganda qqref,
alright, let's ask Jiří Fridrich himself; :cool:

Jiří, do you deserve to have the CFOP method named after you? :confused:

I feel sorry for the u.s.american transexual plagiator Jiří;
where is Jiří's soul going to go after he is done with his
"work ... focusing mostly on military research funded by
the Air Force, ... and other government agencies ..."? :(
 

notCanada

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You're funny. Unlike Jiří, I did not write my last name next to it and I did not claim it was my work.

Actually, I took it off a Serbian site where it was taken (without credit, so what?) from Ryan Heise's
site (now I know); thank you for your info; I added a "source of information" link to my first post.

But that is not the point. The question here is:
does Jiří deserve to have the CFOP method named after him?
Would he deserve it, if he was a citizen of North Korea or Iran?
If he had not taken the America-America-über-alles-citizenship?
 

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notCanada said:
You're funny. Unlike Jiří, I did not write my last name next to it and I did not claim it was my work.

You didn't claim it wasn't your work, either. Your pseudonym is next to it.

notCanada said:
Actually, I took it off a Serbian site where it was taken (without credit, so what?) from Ryan Heise's
site (now I know); thank you for your info; I added a "source of information" link to my first post.

Seems hypocritical.

notCanada said:
But that is not the point. The question here is:
does Jiří deserve to have the CFOP method named after him?
Would he deserve it, if he was a citizen of North Korea or Iran;
If he had not taken the America-America-über-alles-citizenship?

Does Fridrich deserve the posts you are making?
 

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You're funny. Unlike Jiří, I did not write my last name next to it and I did not claim it was my work.

Actually, I took it off a Serbian site where it was taken (without credit, so what?) from Ryan Heise's
site (now I know); thank you for your info; I added a "source of information" link to my first post.

But that is not the point. The question here is:
does Jiří deserve to have the CFOP method named after him?
Would he deserve it, if he was a citizen of North Korea or Iran?
If he had not taken the America-America-über-alles-citizenship?
how about you stop being an *******?

btw its jessica fridrich now retard...
 

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Actually, I took it off a Serbian site
Oh! So you're the same guy who thought "Smerbia" was a reference to your country, and posted the anti-US rant a while ago.

Unlike Jiří, I did not write my last name next to it and I did not claim it was my work.
Where did Fridrich actually do this? The only mention of "Fridrich method" I can find on the site is where someone tells her he uses it and she replies. She calls it "my method" a lot, but in English that can mean "the method I use" as well as "the method I created".

But that is not the point. The question here is:
does Jiří deserve to have the CFOP method named after him?
Would he deserve it, if he was a citizen of North Korea or Iran?
If he had not taken the America-America-über-alles-citizenship?
What does America have to do with anything? Fridrich is originally from Czechoslovakia. And we still talk about the Roux method (he lives in France), the Heise method (he lives in Australia), Guimond (France? Canada?), Ortega (Spain), ZB (Poland), Oka (Japan), Vandenbergh (Belgium), Yau (UK), Waterman (the Netherlands), etc., etc. While many people on this forum are indeed Americans, there are also a lot who are not and never were, and many of they call it the Fridrich method too.

As for NK and Iran, as I'm sure you know these countries have rather oppressive regimes, and few people from those countries are able to contact the outside world and share their ideas. But I see no reason why we would not accept these ideas, if they were good ideas.
 

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Her name is Jessica Fridrich now, and I hardly see how that has anything to do with discussion of her method. Keep going like this notCanada and you'll be looking at a ban.
 

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Seriously, grow up. Again, how does Jessica's personal life have anything to do with the method and the fact that you use it?
 

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This is quotes from Fridrich web page. I think if you read it all there is a lot of things in the text pointing at she and a couple of cubing friends developed the OLL and PLL algorithms them self, and also later the F2L. Maybe this system was, just like the cube it self, independently invented by several persons?

To read the whole story visit: http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/history.html#last

“I had one schoolmate from high school who had the same disease - an unconditional love for the Rubik's cube. His name was Ludek Marek. He was using the same system as me, but for some reason he was always trailing about 20 seconds behind me. He once noted while I was solving the cube pointing to my cube: "Oh, I like this "T" pattern, because when you turn the edges, the whole last layer will actually flip correctly." It was the shortest 6-move that influences only the last layer - the move that perhaps all cubers know. And that sentence stuck in my mind. It was the germ that later blossomed into the current system. I realized that in the system I was using it was possible to first flip the edges, then the corners, then position edges and position corners. This is because the moves commuted. So, what if I had an algorithm for all flipping patterns and all permutations? Then I could solve the last layer always in just two algorithms. Alsothe number of patterns was not that big and they were easy to recognize fast. But where to get the algorithms? I already knew some portion of them and I gradually started adding more. Whenever I encountered an orientation that I did not know, I did it the old way - flip edges and then flip corners. And whenever I encountered a permutation for which I did not have an algorithm, I would combine the permutation from the algorithms I already knew. I began improving very steadily as I improved my system and my ability to recognize positions quickly.”

“I decided to publish my system in Mlady Svet. It contained all algorithms for permutations and orientations and a few moves for the F2L. Most people were disappointed to learn that the method is actually quite "complex" requiring a lot of practicing and memorization. Most expected a simple trick that one can explain in a few minutes. What did you say about the free lunch? I remember one really funny story that happened to me on a train when I commuted to college from my home town. A guy was sitting next to me playing with the cube. I asked him about his system. He said: "I am using the Fridrich method." I asked with a surprise in my voice: "You actually memorized ALL algorithms?" His answer was: "No, that's too much. I know only some of them." I replied with: "Well, you need to memorize all of them otherwise you are not really utilizing its strength." He looked at me frawning and said with his mouth half open: "Yeah, so what's your system?" I answered with a big smile: "I use the Fridrich method, too, because I am Fridrich." He did not blink an eye, did not say anything and handed me his messed-up cube. I solved the cube in about 20 seconds to prove my words and we both laughed at the coincidence.”

“I put my system in electronic form on the Internet in January 1997 after I had discussions with Mike Pugh on the Cube Lovers mailing list (one of the oldest mailing lists ever, established in 1980). He persuaded me that making my system available in electronic form would be useful for other cubers. I made copies of my old, now yellowish, notebook and he made those small pictures you now see on my pages.”
 

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At the first Rubik's cube world championship in Budapest 1982,
the czechoslovakian student J. Fridrich was solving the first two
layers of the cube layer-by-layer :(, while the Dutch student Guus
Razoux Schultz was making use of corner-edge-pairs :cool:.

David Singmaster said:
I asked all the contestants what algorithm they used. Borsos' algorithm was unclear to me. ... I write DC for D corners, ME for middle edges, etc. ... Variants of the D, M, U layer method were used by Fridrich, Serbenski and Trajber... Razoux Schultz did DE, DC & ME together, U ... Petrus does a 2 × 2 × 3 block then orients edges, then orients corners, then completes D & M and then U. ...

CUBIC CANNABIS
Rubik Cubes were banned at Wandsworth Prison, London, after one was found to be stuffed with cannabis!
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J. Fridrich (Czechoslovakia)
Guus Razoux Schultz (Holland)

Guus Razoux Schultz said:
Back in 1982 I "teached" Fridrich some F2L tricks of the dutch "Rene Schoof" system . Fridrich's LL method was the same as the dutch system called "Treep-Dockhorn" invented in 1981. ... Fridrich ... was the first who put F2L & LL ... on the internet ...
=Guus Razoux Schultz said:
In the Netherlands ..., cross+4pairs+OLL+PLL, was called the Treep-Dockhorn method, officially published in 1981 by Frans Schiereck. The inventers are Kurt Dockhorn and Anneke Treep, one of the founders of the dutch cubist club CFF in 1981. Anneke was a 16-year-old girl then. They ... invented the system early 1981 ... before Jiri Fridrich (that was his official name in Budapest 1982) and Mirek Goljan did.
Interesting ^.
 
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