Fake / Counterfeit DaYan Zhanchi from Amazon?

Yeah, if you know who to buy from and who to avoid, Amazon is great, considering it's about 2-3 dollars cheaper than most other cubing stores.
 
I personally never had a problem with Amazon giving me the wrong cube, but a friend of mine got a white guhong instead of a stickerless one. I buy from thecubicle and Amazon (depending on who has the best price). What I am surprised with is that they put a Dayan logo on the yj cube! It couldn't have been a manufacturing error since the two companies are completely unrelated. I'd say it is the sellers fault.
 
It's the first time I've ever had a problem with anything bought 'from' Amazon. I know Amazon itself didn't sell it, and I know the seller ships their inventory to an Amazon warehouse, and Amazon ships it.

I also know that a lot of dishonest sellers avoid Amazon because Amazon does not tolerate anyone screwing with 'their' customers. In my case, I was more interested to get a positive ID on the cube I was sent- complete with Zhanchi box and Dayan logo.

I had no doubt Amazon would make it right.
 
Interesting note: it's been about a week since I reported my counterfeit to Amazon. The seller I bought mine from is no longer selling on Amazon. It seems that Amazon worked quickly indeed.
 
So, I bought a stickerless Zhanchi off Amazon, and since I live in Canada my options were pretty limited as far as stores that will ship to me for reasonable prices. I found the store Liteway (which offered free shipping to Canada from China) and ordered a Zhanchi about two weeks ago, and it hasn't arrived yet. Then I came across this thread and I'm worried that after the terribly long wait, when my cube finally does come it will just be a knockoff.

I checked Liteway's store and it seems like their feedback is really ... limited (for some reason, I thought I recalled seeing strong feedback when I bought it, but I might have mistaken it for another store). What's worse is that the stickerless Zhanchi is no longer listed in their stock... I don't know if it means they're out of stock or if they had to remove it because they weren't ever actually selling them.

Can someone who knows more about this confirm whether this is a seller I should have trusted? I don't really care about being out $10, what I do care about is waiting a month and then not getting a good cube... if I got duped, I'll have to try and find a reputable store that ships to Canada for a reasonable price.

Here's the storefront: http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.htm...8H&rh=i:merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1393532367
 
For the record, the puzzle did arrive after 3 weeks, and it is (as far as I can tell, comparing the insides to Youtube vids) a real Zhanchi.
 
I'm pretty sure my case was an exceptional one. It included a real Dayan logo and a counterfeit box (low quality printing; I noticed the difference immediately when I received the real Zhanchi). Someone went to a lot of trouble.
 
Pariah Zero said:
I'm pretty sure my case was an exceptional one. It included a real Dayan logo and a counterfeit box (low quality printing; I noticed the difference immediately when I received the real Zhanchi). Someone went to a lot of trouble.
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My questions are why would anyone go to the trouble? What's the price difference between the two cubes? Is it substantial enough to warrant this odd behavior?

Was the seller private or a puzzle store?

Could you share more info so that others may avoid troubles of this nature in the future?


Lots o' questions..sorry
 
Arti said:
My questions are why would anyone go to the trouble?
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Profit?

What's the price difference between the two cubes?
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A stickerless YJ YuLong (what I received) is $8 at a (different) respected puzzle store.

A DaYan Zhanchi is $13.00 at the same store.

So passing off a YuLong as a Zhanchi nets $5 per unit - a 62% margin.

Is it substantial enough to warrant this odd behavior?
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Yes, especially at volume. The seller was likely counting on a customer base that wouldn't tension & lubricate a twisty puzzle. Oops.

Was the seller private or a puzzle store?
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A 'private' seller that uses Amazon for its storefront/warehouse/shipping. Not a puzzle store.

Could you share more info so that others may avoid troubles of this nature in the future?
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Not more than I already have. An important point is that Amazon immediately 'made it right.' The only 'cost' to me was time, which is a bit of a bummer, but not a huge deal with Amazon Prime's 2-day shipping. Amazon also has a scorched earth policy towards counterfeiters. Counterfeit goods are confiscated and destroyed with no recourse or compensation, and that is what happened in my case; the seller no longer sells puzzles.
 
bornlambo said:
I recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi from Amazon after misplacing my other 55mm one at school. It came in today and I immediately noticed a difference. The sound and feel was completely different (much scratchier than my original one). When I opened it up, I realized there were no torpedoes as the bottom of the edge piece was a smooth curve. I was confused as to whether this was really a Zhanchi (because I'm stupid and have little actual cube knowledge) or if it's not a Zhanchi and they sent me the wrong one?

Thanks for helping me out!
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To let you know, if you ordered just a regular 57mm ZhanChi, it won't feel like your old 55mm one because they have different feels due to differences in the plastic. The 55mm is smoother than the regular sized ones, however, it still should've had torpedoes. Recently, the 57mm's have changed and are a lot smoother than they have been, however the store from which you ordered may have still been stocked with the older version. Pictures would help.
 
I have £10 to spend at Amazon, and I was looking to buy a GuHong v2. Does anybody here know of anyone that actually sells DaYan cubes on Amazon? btw, I think I can only buy from amazon.co.uk, not sure though. I remember not being able to buy from amazon.com last time I tried ordering cubes from there because I live in the UK. Which sucks because there are no AoSus on amazon.co.uk.
 
Sorry that happened to you. My friend ordered a Dayan Guhong 2x2 from Amazon(Yeah right)... anyway, it was sadly (of course) a fake and I told him to order from thecubicle.us next time. :(
 
TDM said:
I have £10 to spend at Amazon, and I was looking to buy a GuHong v2. Does anybody here know of anyone that actually sells DaYan cubes on Amazon? btw, I think I can only buy from amazon.co.uk, not sure though. I remember not being able to buy from amazon.com last time I tried ordering cubes from there because I live in the UK. Which sucks because there are no AoSus on amazon.co.uk.
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Try cubikon.de they are based Switzerland, but the site can be used in English, pretty sure they deliver to the UK too
 
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