# Fake / Counterfeit DaYan Zhanchi from Amazon?

#### bornlambo

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I recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi from Amazon after misplacing my other 55mm one at school. It came in today and I immediately noticed a difference. The sound and feel was completely different (much scratchier than my original one). When I opened it up, I realized there were no torpedoes as the bottom of the edge piece was a smooth curve. I was confused as to whether this was really a Zhanchi (because I'm stupid and have little actual cube knowledge) or if it's not a Zhanchi and they sent me the wrong one?

Thanks for helping me out!

#### brian724080

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I recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi from Amazon after misplacing my other 55mm one at school. It came in today and I immediately noticed a difference. The sound and feel was completely different (much scratchier than my original one). When I opened it up, I realized there were no torpedoes as the bottom of the edge piece was a smooth curve. I was confused as to whether this was really a Zhanchi (because I'm stupid and have little actual cube knowledge) or if it's not a Zhanchi and they sent me the wrong one?

Thanks for helping me out!
You should upload pictures of your cube so we can help you. Buying cubes from Amazon is a horrible choice in the first choice, although many of the online Chinese stores look fishy, they're quite reliable. In your case, you can just buy from stores like the Cubicle or likewise. Chances are, amazon sent you the wrong cube, or a defected cube.

#### bornlambo

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You should upload pictures of your cube so we can help you. Buying cubes from Amazon is a horrible choice in the first choice, although many of the online Chinese stores look fishy, they're quite reliable. In your case, you can just buy from stores like the Cubicle or likewise. Chances are, amazon sent you the wrong cube, or a defected cube.
Should I have uploaded a picture of an edge piece?

#### natezach728

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I could be very wrong, but it sounds like you maybe got a fangshi?? they are very scratchy and don't have torpedoes. like the post above, upload pictures so we can help you out.

#### bornlambo

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Here's an image of the edge piece.

#### ChickenWrap

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Here's an image of the edge piece.
Unless they have come out with a new zhanchi...well, you don't have a legit one. My original zhanchi looks nothing like that! Sorry bro.

#### bornlambo

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Unless they have come out with a new zhanchi...well, you don't have a legit one. My original zhanchi looks nothing like that! Sorry bro.
Haha, well that's no fun. I only paid like $10 for it, so it's not that bad. Guess I'll just order from cube stores in the future. Thanks for the answer! #### brian724080 ##### Member Haha, well that's no fun. I only paid like$10 for it, so it's not that bad. Guess I'll just order from cube stores in the future.
Thanks for the answer!
That's definitely not a Zhanchi, try buying from a cube store

#### Rise

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I also recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi V from Amazon but don't have torpedos either. The edges and corners have no neck... Is this not a legit Zhanchi?

#### ChickenWrap

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I also recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi V from Amazon but don't have torpedos either. The edges and corners have no neck... Is this not a legit Zhanchi?
That is definitely not a Zhanchi

#### ~Adam~

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Appears to be a new YJ. They are all very similar and can be purchased from a cube store for $3-$6.

Could've easily been sent a worse cube.

#### Cody

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I'm pretty sure thats a yj chi long that is a very good cube tho but definitely not a dayan, dayans are very rounded everywhere that is very blocky.

#### SolveThatCube

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I'm pretty sure thats a yj chi long that is a very good cube tho but definitely not a dayan, dayans are very rounded everywhere that is very blocky.
Yeah I think its a ChiLong

#### Pariah Zero

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Counterfeit Puzzle?

I've decided to start solving the 3x3 again, and after some research, decided to get a sticker less DaYan Zhanchi (not a kit). I ordered mine from Amazon.

When it arrived, I disassembled it, and found that what I was looking at was not at all like any of the pictures/reviews/videos I've seen for the Zhanchi:

So, is this a counterfeit cube, or has the manufacturer changed the design recently?

Thanks.

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#### Genesis

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I've decided to start solving the 3x3 again, and after some research, decided to get a sticker less DaYan Zhanchi (not a kit). I ordered mine from Amazon.

When it arrived, I disassembled it, and found that what I was looking at was not at all like any of the pictures/reviews/videos I've seen for the Zhanchi:

So, is this a counterfeit cube, or has the manufacturer changed the design recently?

Thanks.
If they changed the design, I see no reason to not advertise it as a new cube and quietly replace it for an older design
Probably the seller advertised it as something it wasn't

#### pipkiksass

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Seriously folks, if people sell you a branded product on Amazon and don't provide said branded product, they are committing fraud.

You should do at least one of the following:

1) demand a refund

2) report the store to Amazon. They aren't keen on being an accessory to fraud, and will suspend the storeholder.

3) report them to Trading Standards, or your country's equivalent. They are committing a criminal offence.

Or you could do nothing, allow them to keep your money, and leave them free to scam others in future. Your choice!

#### Logical101

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I've decided to start solving the 3x3 again, and after some research, decided to get a sticker less DaYan Zhanchi (not a kit). I ordered mine from Amazon.

When it arrived, I disassembled it, and found that what I was looking at was not at all like any of the pictures/reviews/videos I've seen for the Zhanchi:

So, is this a counterfeit cube, or has the manufacturer changed the design recently?

Thanks.
that cube and the other guys cubes are MoYu/yj YuLongs

#### newtonbase

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I've just bought my niece a stickerless zhanchi from Amazon. It felt different to my own black zhanchi but I really liked the feel. I'll be taking it apart when I get home to check it.

#### brian724080

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I also recently ordered a new Dayan Zhanchi V from Amazon but don't have torpedos either. The edges and corners have no neck... Is this not a legit Zhanchi?
Nope. And nope, Amazon is bad

#### pipkiksass

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Amazon is bad
No, Amazon is good. Amazon SELLERS are bad. Amazon would be very interested to hear that people on the Amazon marketplace are fraudulently selling cheaper cubes in place of premium cubes.

See my previous post re: reporting fraudsters to Amazon.

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