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Coronavirus With Cubes?

xyzzy

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Coronavirus is less deadly than the flu. Just a thought.
NO WTF

How do you look at current case fatality rates (probably 1%-3%, taking underreporting into account) and say that it's "less deadly" than the seasonal flu, which has estimated fatality rates of less than 0.1%? You're not only wrong, you're wrong by a whole order of magnitude.

True. As I said, no one who was otherwise healthy has died yet
You may be right, and you may be safe from severe complications of the disease if you do happen to catch the virus because you're a healthy young individual, but sick people exist.
 

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How do you look at current case fatality rates (probably 1%-3%, taking underreporting into account) and say that it's "less deadly" than the seasonal flu, which has estimated fatality rates of less than 0.1%? You're not only wrong, you're wrong by a whole order of magnitude.
The flu is pretty deadly, but vaccines are the big factor there. Also, doctors can't say which is more deadly for sure, so let's not come to conclusions.
 

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The flu is pretty deadly, but vaccines are the big factor there. Also, doctors can't say which is more deadly for sure, so let's not come to conclusions.
Vaccines make it less likely that you get the disease, not generally make it less serious when you do. Vaccines would therefore have little or no effect on the mortality rate, which is deaths/infections.
 

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Ok. I am not sure how safe it is for you guys in the US or somewhere else getting Chinese cubes now. But here are some information I know for now.

I live in Taiwan and fortunately, we only have 47 cases until now thanks to our government and a good health system. Right now no cubing stores in Taiwan are rolling new cubes out.

Some facts:
  • Just to show how contagious it is, a case in Taiwan caught the disease by just sitting in front of another case in a classroom WITH THE MASK ON ALL THE TIME.
 
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One Wheel

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  • Even if the flu killed a bunch of people, let’s not forgot if you survive a flu, nothing remains, But even if you survive COVID-19, you will suffer from lung problems for the rest of your life.
I can find no reference to this. It’s very contagious, but everything I’ve seen suggests that if you get it a full recovery is the most likely eventual outcome.
 

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I can find no reference to this. It’s very contagious, but everything I’ve seen suggests that if you get it a full recovery is the most likely eventual outcome.
There are cases of lung transplant surgeries in China for patients who end up with a malfunctioning lung.

The first case in Taiwan has this after coronavirus infection:

The news said that the doctor isn’t sure whether she will be full recovery or have that for the rest of her life.
 

One Wheel

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There are cases of lung transplant surgeries in China for patients who end up with a malfunctioning lung.

The first case in Taiwan has this after coronavirus infection:

The news said that the doctor isn’t sure whether she will be full recovery or have that for the rest of her life.
It’s a respiratory disease, it’s highly likely that a few patients will have lasting damage. The same is true of the flu. That’s very different than you WILL suffer from lung problems for the rest of your life.
 

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It’s a respiratory disease, it’s highly likely that a few patients will have lasting damage. The same is true of the flu. That’s very different than you WILL suffer from lung problems for the rest of your life.
Yes, you are right, I shouldn’t say WILL. I just mean that it leads to lung inflammation and it may cause lasting problems.
 

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Well crap my competition was cancelled for coronavirus and like everyone going is not over 40(to my knowledge) RIP me
Why do people keep thinking that just because they themselves are not older (or have other health issues that they are just fine)? Even if you do not have signs of the virus or get it very mildly (if you even know you have it) does not mean that you will (or anyone for that matter) will pass it on to hundreds of other people (some of which might get it really bad). Canceling competitions where it is bad, getting back, or near areas of where there was a positive report is the best option for the local community, even if you and others don't like it.

And I say this with having to cancel a competition that we were going to host. I do not like to cancel it since a lot of people were looking forward to it, but I am not thinking of myself in that regard, but rather everyone that will be attending the competition (including spectators) and the after affect of people that the competitors will be in contact with after the competition (including there parents, grandparents, etc.)

Some points:
People can still be carriers of this virus without showing any signs, and pass it on to others.
It is a highly transmittable virus
It can last on surfaces for up to 9 days.
You may not show signs of it for up to 14 days after you get it for the first time.
Even if you get it and it goes away, you can still get it again.

Sorry for this sounding rant like, but I for one am getting really tired of people thinking only of themselves and that even if they get the virus they will not be that bad off, due to their age, health, or what ever the cause. If you and everyone else truly wants to try and fight/contain this as quickly and best as possible then be thoughtful of others and be proactive and not reactive.

If you get it and only a mild case, then congrats, but what about a family member that gets it and has a severe case? How would you like that? (don't answer, just think about it).

There will always be illness and viruses so you can't always avoid it, but for something new like this and the world trying to contain it as best as possible, I think that canceling/moving a competition is not that bad for a couple of months.
 
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One Wheel

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Why do people keep thinking that just because they themselves are not older (or have other health issues that they are just fine)? Even if you do not have signs of the virus or get it very mildly (if you even know you have it) does not mean that you will (or anyone for that matter) will pas it on to hundreds of other people (some of which might get it really bad). Canceling competitions where it is bad, getting back, or near areas of where there was a positive report is the best option for the local community, even if you and others don't like it.

And I say this with having to cancel a competition that we were going to host. I do not like to cancel it since a lot of people were looking forward to it, but I am not thinking of myself in that regard, but rather everyone that will be attending the competition (including spectators) and the after affect of people that the competitors will be in contact with after the competition (including there parents, grandparents, etc.)

Some points:
People can still be carriers of this virus without showing any signs, and pass it on to others.
It is a highly transmittable virus
It can last on surfaces for up to 9 days.
You may not show signs of it for up to 14 days after you get it for the first time.
Even if you get it and it goes away, you can still get it again.

Sorry for this sounding rant like, but I for one am getting really tired of people thinking only of themselves and that even if they get the virus they will not be that bad off, due to their age, health, or what ever the cause. If you and everyone else truly wants to try and fight/contain this as quickly and best as possible then be thoughtful of others and be proactive and not reactive.

If you get it and only a mild case, then congrats, but what about a family member that gets it and has a severe case? How would you like that? (don't answer, just think about it).

There will always be illness and viruses so you can't always avoid it, but for something new like this and the world trying to contain it as best as possible, I think that canceling/moving a competition is not that bad for a couple of months.
Well put. I would add that for the competitions that have been cancelled a lot of the work that has gone into organizing them has not been lost. This means that if the Coronavirus dies down in the next couple of months, as seems likely one way or another, it is very likely that most of the competitions that have been cancelled will be rescheduled in the next 6 months or so.
 

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Fact's though that no one fully knows to be guarantees at this point (both on your end and mine). I will avid though stating facts until we know for sure about them.
Ya, I think that the fact that no one really is for sure on anything causes more confusion and makes it scarier. But the fact that large groups should be avoided at almost any cost definently remains.
 
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