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Which one is the best budget high-end 4x4 without considering their prices?


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WCA hardware comparison threads:
Best 2x2 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-2x2-comparison-new.74709/
Budget 3x3 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-3x3-comparison.75201/
Budget high-end 3x3 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-high-end-3x3-comparison.73563/
Best 3x3 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-3x3-comparison.74896/
Budget high-end 4x4 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-high-end-4x4-comparison.73959/
Best 4x4 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-4x4-comparison.74450/
Budget high-end 5x5 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-high-end-5x5-comparison.73898/
Best 6x6 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-6x6-comparison.74156/
Budget 7x7 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-7x7-comparison.75083/
Best skewb comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-skewb-comparison.75047/
Budget pyraminx comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-pyraminx-comparison.73889/
Budget high-end pyraminx comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-high-end-pyraminx-comparison.75237/
Best pyraminx comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-pyraminx-comparison.73862/
Best megaminx comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-megaminx-comparison.74702/
Budget square-1 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/budget-square-1-comparison.74142/
Best square-1 comparison
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/best-square-1-comparison.73861/
 
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I already posted my thoughts on the Yusu here:

https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/is-my-cube-puzzle-a-dud.43499/page-35#post-1319384

Maybe it was a dud.

The Mr. M on the other hand is very good - not exactly great, but very good.

Mr. M pros:

1. Classic look with equal-sized pieces.
2. Fast - especially the inner slices.
3. Fun to turn, in my opinion.

Mr. M cons:

1. Occasional lockups with inner slice turns.
2. Uneven tensions out of the box, but I corrected this and it helped with the lockups.
3. Annoying resistance bump right before completing sice turns, causing occasional undershooting and counteracting the advantage of magnets.
4. Only comes in black/stickered.

So the Mr. M is definitely not perfect, but it's a decent, fast, cheap, magnetic 4x4.

My Yusu just didn't compare. It was slower, had more lockups that were more severe (including a deforming lockup that caused an inner piece to pop out), felt dry despite coming covered in smelly lube OOTB, and was just annoying to use. It has joined my curbside giveaway cubing outreach program.

I also had the Thunderclap Mini. It was a good cube, but way too slow for me. I have some RSI problems so I need a fast cube with very little resistance. I would recommend the Thunderclap over the Yusu, however.
 
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My thunderclap 4x4 M is very slow for both inner and outer layers. I have lubed it already, but I have used slightly stronger magnets in the inner layer, making it even slower than ootb. Does spring compression help?
 

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My thunderclap 4x4 M is very slow for both inner and outer layers. I have lubed it already, but I have used slightly stronger magnets in the inner layer, making it even slower than ootb. Does spring compression help?
I've never done spring compression on any of my cubes. The most I ever do is tension and lube.
 
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I already posted my thoughts on the Yusu here:

https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/is-my-cube-puzzle-a-dud.43499/page-35#post-1319384

Maybe it was a dud.

The Mr. M on the other hand is very good - not exactly great, but very good.

Mr. M pros:

1. Classic look with equal-sized pieces.
2. Fast - especially the inner slices.
3. Fun to turn, in my opinion.

Mr. M cons:

1. Occasional lockups with inner slice turns.
2. Uneven tensions out of the box, but I corrected this and it helped with the lockups.
3. Annoying resistance bump right before completing sice turns, causing occasional undershooting and counteracting the advantage of magnets.
4. Only comes in black/stickered.

So the Mr. M is definitely not perfect, but it's a decent, fast, cheap, magnetic 4x4.

My Yusu just didn't compare. It was slower, had more lockups that were more severe (including a deforming lockup that caused an inner piece to pop out), felt dry despite coming covered in smelly lube OOTB, and was just annoying to use. It has joined my curbside giveaway cubing outreach program.

I also had the Thunderclap Mini. It was a good cube, but way too slow for me. I have some RSI problems so I need a fast cube with very little resistance. I would recommend the Thunderclap over the Yusu, however.
how are the cornercutting?
 

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how are the cornercutting?
I'm not really the guy to ask - I use mostly inner slice and U moves when solving 4x4, and I solve pieces directly so there is no 3x3 stage. I rarely turn two outer layers sequentially. I just tested the Mr. M and it can corner cut okay - about the same as my Aosu GTS2. The Yusu is already gone so I can't test it.
 

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I will highly suggest adding the Meilong 4x4 to the poll.

I only pay $2.50 on it (in Taiwan) and after lubing and tensioning, it's on par with the thunderclap. A definite budget- high end 4x4.
 

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What about the yuxin little magic 4x4?
Maybe after it's released,so that there is a comparison.:)
Cubicle just released it!! So bad Taiwan hasn't(I shall wait;))

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