Eamon
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what alg do you use?
for 2 lines i use: R U' L' U R' U L U L' U L
for checkers i use: R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U2 R' U2 R
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for 2 lines i use: R U' L' U R' U L U L' U L
for checkers i use: R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U2 R' U2 R
DNF_Cuber
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Eamon
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i use this alg too, this alg has a lot of gripshifts which is worse than checkers
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Deleted member 55877
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(L' U R U') (L U' R' U' R U' R')
Mirror of the standard "Niklas-Cancel into lefty antisune."
Eamon
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wow, never thought of that, this alg might reduced the problem a bit
VIBE_ZT
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Above all, it's sort of a proof of concept.
1-Look Last Layer is the inevitable next step above ZBLL and OLLCP. It's sort of the idea that... well.... Why not?
And if you think about it, an OLL algorithm with a PLL skip is technically a 1LLL algorithm. And... Some of them are extremely easy to recognize and execute.
Think about these two cases:
F R U' R' U' R U R' F'
F R' F' R U R U' R'
They are both very fast, and very easy to recognize. And there are more than a few easy cases like this. So... knowing some 1LLL is nice.
Eamon
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the second one is faster it doesn't have the regrip in the beginning
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Deleted member 55877
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I agree that I think SOME 1LLL is good. But after ZBLL, focusing on ZBLS should be priority so that you can use ZBLL more
qwr
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This reminds me of a video I can't find at the moment that showed all 3 million plus 2x2 scrambles and solutions.
Eamon
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imo, ZB and 1L are both kinda fast, they are about the same speed
VIBE_ZT
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....yes but both solve different 1lll cases. That's the whole point. If you do the 2nd alg on the first case, you get a T-Perm. And for one extra move and a ***quick*** regrip, you get a solved LL.
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Deleted member 55877
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ZB has less algs, so it's better overall to learn. But yes I agree that they are about the same speed
Eamon
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oh, i didn't get the point sry
DNF_Cuber
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that's funny, the first is the standard alg.
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Deleted member 55877
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The first one (standard) can be executed without a regrip lol. Right thumb push down for F
qwr
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Here it is boys: the 1 look 2x2 "tutorial" by @ben1996123 / @Ben Whitmore. I looked through 1 year of chat logs to find it because discord search sucks.
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That's like saying EPLL is better than PLL because it has fewer algs and is even faster. An apples to
Wow yikes I misread that, sorry. I thought you meant ZBLL rather than ZB. Point still partially stands; I think it's fair to say that LS + 1LLL has better efficiency than ZBLS + ZBLL, but a compromise approach (cherrypicking the good ZBLS cases, forcing certain 1LLL subsets) would be ideal.
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Eamon
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omg, that's alot of work :O
Eamon
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For the other alg sets, like OLLCP, OH OLL/PLL, CMLL, check out this sheet created by teri: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zFnQbFs-YTF0ipi4flYaCJ1vYVXhmcXDqmYnnkF9XP8/edit#gid=0
JakeCanSolve
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that's insane, 3915 algs!!
