[Help Thread] 2x2 CLL Method Discussion

[TDM]

you can be sub 3 with lbl......

... how is that related to his question in any way?

 

[Antonie faz fan]

... how is that related to his question in any way?

he says how to be sub 4 with ortega i am just saying that he could do the same with lbl and do not need cll

 

[Randomno]

Sub-3 with LBL needs sub-1 permutations, and possibly OLL recog in inspection.

 

[TDM]

he says how to be sub 4 with ortega

No he didn't.

My question is how much time will it take me to get to sub-4 ?

And even if he did, your post still didn't answer the question.

 

[Randomno]

I can recognise patterns once first layer is done, but then I can't really think of which alg uses that pattern. Should I just keep recalling the pattern when I review the alg?

 

[Coolster01]

Sub-3 with LBL needs sub-1 permutations, and possibly OLL recog in inspection.

Sub1 permutations isnt very hard at all y perm is not as hard as used to be beause dayan xD

 

[Randomno]

Sub1 permutations isnt very hard at all y perm is not as hard as used to be beause dayan xD

If I try overly fingertricking the Y perm, my fingers practically end up inside the cube.

 

[STOCKY7]

you can be sub 3 with lbl......

If he is 4.5 with Ortega, I very very highly doubt he is going to be able to achieve sub-3 with LBL...

 

[BrianJ]

If he is 4.5 with Ortega, I very very highly doubt he is going to be able to achieve sub-3 with LBL...

Obviously with practice, sub-3 LBL can happen. One of this easiest ways to do it (by my knowledge) is to do two-look solves (seeing OLL in inspection), efficient layers, and decent TPS. You have much larger chances in succeeding in a fun event (in one's opinion) than a boring event.

 

[Prakhar]

I am currently starting to learn CLL. How fast should I go about it? Like how many algs per day, how to practice and stuff. I am currently sub 5 with ortega.

 

[Randomno]

I am currently starting to learn CLL. How fast should I go about it? Like how many algs per day, how to practice and stuff. I am currently sub 5 with ortega.

I'm trying to learn a set in 2/3 days. The algs aren't too hard to learn, but the recognition is important to memorise.

 

[TDM]

Sub1 permutations isnt very hard at all y perm is not as hard as used to be beause dayan xD

But can you do sub-1 permuations with the solved layer on U and the swaps on D? That's the most important question.

Can anyone? Is it even possible? I'd like to see someone do this. I can sub-1 all permutations with the swaps on U but none of them on D.

 

[PJKCuber]

I'm averaging 5.0x on 2x2. Should I start learning CLL? I only have like a week of vacation left.

 

[Hssandwich]

I'm averaging 5.0x on 2x2. Should I start learning CLL? I only have like a week of vacation left.

I think that you should keep going with ortega, assuming that is what you use already, until you are sub 4.5, then start learning CLL

 

[JemFish]

I think that you should keep going with ortega, assuming that is what you use already, until you are sub 4.5, then start learning CLL

Sorry to pretty much perfectly contradict you, but I recommend learning CLL as soon as possible seeing that there are so many, and especially that it's only a third of EG. It will still be a while after beginning learning CLL before you actually begin to use it properly.

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

Sorry to pretty much perfectly contradict you, but I recommend learning CLL as soon as possible seeing that there are so many, and especially that it's only a third of EG. It will still be a while after beginning learning CLL before you actually begin to use it properly.

I disagree because many will only be using CLL for a 2x2 method and not full EG unless you prepare to get seriously into 2x2 then go ahead.

 

[TDM]

I disagree because many will only be using CLL for a 2x2 method and not full EG unless you prepare to get seriously into 2x2 then go ahead.

I still think it's good to learn CLL soon, even if he doesn't want to learn EG.

 

[Randomno]

There's no reason to put off learning CLL. It's not like being slower will make it harder to learn the algs.

 

[PJKCuber]

How many algs should I learn in a day? Like just a set or 2-3?

 

[PJKCuber]

I disagree because many will only be using CLL for a 2x2 method and not full EG unless you prepare to get seriously into 2x2 then go ahead.

Yeah, I am pretty serious about 2x2. What can I do anyway? I haven't solved any cubes in 5 months. My Aolong broke,Aosu got destickered,My other 3x3 is unstickered also.
Plus I had exams. I could have been averaging 11-12 seconds by now, but never mind I guess. The only cube that works is my Lingpo.