Obama-Biden or McCain-Palin(Speedsolving Votes)

[Dene]

That's is a very good point, as I plan on doing some graduate study in the US too. I certainly hope it won't be with Palin running around as VP.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Everyone brings up the point to make them seem smart, that both candidates are gonna die(Obama assassinated, McCain die of old age). Most of these people are Republican. Who wants a complete IDIOT for president after McCain dies?

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

Obama is pretty ballsy, it's inevitable that someone will try to assassinate him, two plots have already been foiled and he's just running.

 

[Crickets]

Everyone brings up the point to make them seem smart, that both candidates are gonna die(Obama assassinated, McCain die of old age). Most of these people are Republican. Who wants a complete IDIOT for president after McCain dies?

Well considering she is the only one who has actually been in office out of the four people running(counting VP's of course), I wouldn't say shes "a complete idiot". That actually makes no sense. You can't be "a complete idiot" and get elected governor of the biggest state in the country, which also has probably the richest resources out of our whole country.

You might argue that Bush is "a complete idiot" but he's not, in fact I think he did pretty good considering he had to deal with the biggest crisis of this country since the cold war. In his first year of office.

 

[Dene]

He had to deal with it, but did he do a good job of it? That is a far more important question.
Also, by the fact that Palin was elected the governor of the biggest state in the country does not show that she is not a complete idiot. It might be the case that everyone in Alaska that voted for her is just an idiot (far more likely).

 

[qqwref]

You can't be "a complete idiot" and get elected governor of the biggest state in the country, which also has probably the richest resources out of our whole country.

Er... Alaska is an extremely large state geographically, but it is one of the smallest states in terms of people, with only about 600,000 residents. So I don't think being governor of Alaska is anywhere near as difficult a job as being governor of smaller but much more populated states like (say) New York. Each *Congressperson* in Texas, Florida, or California represents more people than she did. Besides, I think we've seen that if a politician runs as a populist (by being like everyone else - being a hockey mom, having a regular guy as a husband, etc.) she can win offices and support without necessarily being intelligent or a good leader.


It's an interesting point that you guys have been making recently, about how both McCain and Obama have a decent chance of not making it through their term alive (age-related health problems or assassination respectively). So maybe the question is: would you rather have Palin or Biden as president? Biden seems to have much more political experience and be a better debater than Palin. I think even if I leaned Republican I'd have to admit he would make a better leader of the free world.

 

[shelley]

You can't be "a complete idiot" and get elected governor of the biggest state in the country

Why not? You can even be elected president of the whole country (zing!)

Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll let you get back to your regular scheduled discussion on the current candidates.

 

[DavidWoner]

I think even if I leaned Republican I'd have to admit he would make a better leader of the free world.

my roommate is a Mccain supporter and hardcore republican, but he hates Sarah Palin so much that he's not voting. I know quite a few Mccain supporters, but I have yet to meet anyone who is a fan of Palin.

You can't be "a complete idiot" and get elected governor of the biggest state in the country

Why not? You can even be elected president of the whole country (zing!)

Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll let you get back to your regular scheduled discussion on the current candidates.

I'd laugh at this, but I'm too busy crying on the inside because its true...

 

[Bryan]

Everyone brings up the point to make them seem smart, that both candidates are gonna die(Obama assassinated, McCain die of old age). Most of these people are Republican.

Yup, it's a good thing Democrats have never brought up McCain's age. Seriously, that's one of the "base" Democrat arguments.

Obama is pretty ballsy, it's inevitable that someone will try to assassinate him, two plots have already been foiled and he's just running.

I think assassination attempts for Presidents has grown anyway. But I also think the Secret Service is probably way better at investigating and preventing. Just look at how many attempts have been made at Bush.

I know quite a few Mccain supporters, but I have yet to meet anyone who is a fan of Palin.

Yes, all those people who show up at her rally are just mystical. But you know what, I have yet to meet a fan of Biden. Seriously, I don't see anyone saying he's great.

anyway, I'm off to be an election judge for the whole day. It should be a busy time looking up people's polling places, getting them registered, for a constant bazillion hours. But I told my wife, if I wasn't doing this, then I'd be watching the news all day.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Most important: For those in the USA who are voting today, the lines WILL be long. So be SURE to bring your cube!

I did 5 BLD solves (behind my back; 2 DNFs, the other 3 were rather slow but successful) and about 50 speedsolves.

The pollworkers seemed to thoroughly enjoy it.

 

[cmhardw]

Most important: For those in the USA who are voting today, the lines WILL be long. So be SURE to bring your cube!

I did 5 BLD solves (behind my back; 2 DNFs, the other 3 were rather slow but successful) and about 50 speedsolves.

The pollworkers seemed to thoroughly enjoy it.

I hope more people turn up in my state later in the day. I just got back from my polling place and I was in and out in 10 minutes, no lines at all. After an hour of voting I was only number 174 to turn in a ballot :-(

Chris

 

[pjk]

Obama is pretty ballsy, it's inevitable that someone will try to assassinate him, two plots have already been foiled and he's just running.

I think assassination attempts for Presidents has grown anyway. But I also think the Secret Service is probably way better at investigating and preventing. Just look at how many attempts have been made at Bush.

I was just about to bring that up, so glad you did. I think the Secret Service will indeed do a good job at protecting the president.

anyway, I'm off to be an election judge for the whole day. It should be a busy time looking up people's polling places, getting them registered, for a constant bazillion hours. But I told my wife, if I wasn't doing this, then I'd be watching the news all day.

Nice to hear someone here helping out with the elections. Good luck, and thanks for the help.

 

[MistArts]

99% of Black voters are going for Obama. How racist is that?

I was for Ron Paul at the beginning for primaries but since he lost, I'm for Barr. America needs to stop having a two dominant party system.

 

[Brett]

99% of Black voters are going for Obama. How racist is that?

Not very. Even before this election 95% of Black people were Democrats.

Also: I support Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHGbT_82w1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zXi90EVeg&feature=related
Newt Gingrich says it best.


So, how about those Obama tax cuts? During the debates it was all people below $250,000 got cuts. Now it's all people below $120,000.
Shame he made this decision around 2-3 days ago, so it won't have enough time to get attention.

 

[cmhardw]

So, how about those Obama tax cuts? During the debates it was all people below $250,000 got cuts. Now it's all people below $120,000.
Shame he made this decision around 2-3 days ago, so it won't have enough time to get attention.

Where are you getting your information? I can't find anything mentioning that the amount was changed. I found this on cnn.com, dated yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/6kf5yk

Here they mention that the tax cut-off bracket is still roughly $250,000 for tax increases. Where did you find that the number had changed? Can you provide a link or an article stating this?

Chris

 

[badmephisto]

99% of Black voters are going for Obama. How racist is that?

I never really though of Obama as being black. He is the kind of civilized black person that I don't have any trouble thinking of as an equal or more.

He is actually only half black and was raised by his white mother though

 

[Brett]

Here they mention that the tax cut-off bracket is still roughly $250,000 for tax increases. Where did you find that the number had changed? Can you provide a link or an article stating this?

Chris

I watched all 4 of the final speeches last night on CNN. McCain and Palin both talked about Obama's tax plan, and how his "definition of the middle class keeps changing". I'll look for a transcription now...

 

[cmhardw]

99% of Black voters are going for Obama. How racist is that?

I never really though of Obama as being black. He is the kind of civilized black person that I don't have any trouble thinking of as an equal or more.

He is actually only half black and was raised by his white mother though

Wow, that sounds very racially charged to me. Obama is obviously black, this is only determined by his skin color. Why would you not think of Obama as black? Are we referring to the color of his skin only, or attributes typically associated with people who have black skin? And what exactly is the difference between a civilized and an uncivilized black person? Do you also think of whites (or hispanics, or asians, etc.) as being separated into two groups, as being either civilized or uncivilized?

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@ Brett : If you do find something please let us know. That would be an incredibly sneaky trick if he really did do that. I like Obama yeah, but if he pulled something like that I would like him a whole lot less :-(
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Chris

 

[Crickets]

Yes, all those people who show up at her rally are just mystical. But you know what, I have yet to meet a fan of Biden. Seriously, I don't see anyone saying he's great.

Agreed. Around here nobody likes Biden. Personally Palin is my favorite out of all of them. Just most the media has made her seem like she incapable of possibly running a country. I worry more about how capable Obama is of running a country than Palin.

 

[Crickets]

99% of Black voters are going for Obama. How racist is that?

I never really though of Obama as being black. He is the kind of civilized black person that I don't have any trouble thinking of as an equal or more.

He is actually only half black and was raised by his white mother though

Wow, that sounds very racially charged to me. Obama is obviously black, this is only determined by his skin color. Why would you not think of Obama as black? Are we referring to the color of his skin only, or attributes typically associated with people who have black skin? And what exactly is the difference between a civilized and an uncivilized black person? Do you also think of whites (or hispanics, or asians, etc.) as being separated into two groups, as being either civilized or uncivilized?

Chris

Yes. I do think of whites (or hispanics, or asians, etc.) as being separated into two groups. But use common sense, you can tell if somebody is in essence "civilized or uncivilized".