The main reason that the Republican Party replaced the Whig Party because of slavery. Democrats, of course, supports slavery.
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The main reason that the Republican Party replaced the Whig Party because of slavery. Democrats, of course, supports slavery.
badmephisto
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I never really though of Obama as being black. He is the kind of civilized black person that I don't have any trouble thinking of as an equal or more.
He is actually only half black and was raised by his white mother though
Wow, that sounds very racially charged to me. Obama is obviously black, this is only determined by his skin color. Why would you not think of Obama as black? Are we referring to the color of his skin only, or attributes typically associated with people who have black skin? And what exactly is the difference between a civilized and an uncivilized black person? Do you also think of whites (or hispanics, or asians, etc.) as being separated into two groups, as being either civilized or uncivilized?
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What I was trying to convey was that there is too much attention paid to color issues in this election (I guess for obvious reasons though). What I meant is that for me the issue was always of no importance, but admittedly it is a big step for America to elect a "black" president. And no I don't take color of the skin into account when I call people black or white or whatever, but mostly their descent. You can go and have your body tanned - are you brown now? It doesn't make any sense. Are all albino blacks actually white? Shall we start assigning RGB color values to people next? It's ridiculous.
And yes naturally I do separate people into civilized and uncivilized in general.
Of course McCain and Palin are going to lie about Obama's policy, that is what politics is. It is a tactic to gain voters. If Obama didn't say it, I wouldn't believe it....and therefore, I don't believe it.
Dene
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What would it matter anyway? Do we not think $120,000 is enough of an income in the first place? I mean, they don't really need to be getting that little bit more in tax cuts, really...
I sure hope American's do what's best for them and don't take into account the colour of anyones skin.
EDIT: Mr. Hughey, well done on the queue entertainment
I sure hope American's do what's best for them and don't take into account the colour of anyones skin.
EDIT: Mr. Hughey, well done on the queue entertainment
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They were talking on the local news last night about how even though the numbers look almost impossible for McCain that McCain could still win with Obama having 263 electoral votes and McCain with....something....I don't remember. Anyway, they said that judging by all of the polls, Obama should end up with 7 million more popular votes than McCain but that McCain could still win because there is a good chance that he could win enough states.
A candidate needs 270 electoral votes right? They said on the nightly news with Brian Williams that judging the polls for each state Obama was for sure at 260 electoral votes and McCain with 170, with the rest of the states being so close they could distributed either way.
A candidate needs 270 electoral votes right? They said on the nightly news with Brian Williams that judging the polls for each state Obama was for sure at 260 electoral votes and McCain with 170, with the rest of the states being so close they could distributed either way.
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Most important: For those in the USA who are voting today, the lines WILL be long. So be SURE to bring your cube!
I did 5 BLD solves (behind my back; 2 DNFs, the other 3 were rather slow but successful) and about 50 speedsolves.
The pollworkers seemed to thoroughly enjoy it.
There were absolutely no lines for me, but thats probably because I voted on campus. I was voter 487.
LOL!!! well I guess there's nothing wrong with hoping...
and thats why the electoral college is soooo stupid.
I agree. I hate the electoral college system.
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Thirded. I vote for a referendum!
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Yeah. The electoral college makes no sense at all if you consider that everyone in America expects the candidate who gets more votes to win. Every time the electoral and popular vote are different there's a scandal of some type. There's no reason not to change it, the way I see it...
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no, the electoral college isn't stupid. it's constitutionally obligated because it makes sense for our republic. We are not a democracy. I repeat: WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. i don't know how clear i have to be. our constitution was founded as a confederation of states, in which each state has a stake in the presidency. by suggesting we have a directly democratic election, you are asking for the ultimate destruction of federalism.
a tyranny of the majority is no better than a tyranny of one man. 51% of people, or even 70% of people, or 90%, shouldn't be ruling unchecked over everyone else. This is why we have individual rights and state's rights.
a tyranny of the majority is no better than a tyranny of one man. 51% of people, or even 70% of people, or 90%, shouldn't be ruling unchecked over everyone else. This is why we have individual rights and state's rights.
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and in a thankful twist of irony, even if you do believe direct democracy for the presidency is a good idea, you'll never get the support of 3/4's of the states required to amend the constitution. in the end, state's rights will exist because of, well, state's rights. brilliant.
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According to CNN's Poll of Polls, Obama "has" 291 electoral votes, while McCain "has" 157, with all the remaining electoral votes pretty much on the edge. This is a problem for McCain because not only does he need to receive all the other "battleground" states, but he has to find a state where Obama is ahead in the polls, and bring it over to his side. It's still possible, but I believe he needed to do something drastic to turn everything in his favor, and nothing like that has been done. But polls don't mean anything in the end, all that matters is people actually going out and casting their vote. All the "undecided" people at this point may not vote at all, and McCain would need basically every single one of them to vote for him to prevail. So now we wait.
P.S. OBAMA '08!
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I SAY CARROT!
Dene
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Of course, but the president doesn't have that much power anyway, so why not just make the president the one who gets the most votes instead of having some complicated system? In the end, the president can't do that much anyway...
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I can't wait until the election's over.
I don't need to any more about it; just want it to be over.
I don't need to any more about it; just want it to be over.
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Um, after George W. Bush came into power, there was a huge increase in power of the president.
With Obama in the White House and with a Democratic-controlled Congress, we'll see even more power in this particular president.
