Obama-Biden or McCain-Palin(Speedsolving Votes)

WHo will you vote for in 2008?

  • Obama Biden

    Votes: 120 76.9%
  • McCain Palin

    Votes: 36 23.1%

  • Total voters
    156
if you cant stop the flow of illeagal drugs what makes you think you can stop the flow of illeagal guns. infact they are falling into the hands of the same criminals and I think you can easily relate gun violence in the 80's to crack. the only reason any candidate wants to mess with gun control is to look like the good guy and/or keep us where we are. poor, scared, and hopeless. you don't see this **** in france cause the government is constantly affraid of the people. thats exactly why the average american works 50 hours and the average frenchman works 30. they stood up to their government on a daily basis. here we have hilary clinton hired by walmart to be a lawyer and she lobbies congress to get rid of overtime laws so walmart can make $$$$$. where were we. being poor, scared, and hopeless. and anyone who is scared of obama cause they think he is a socialist needs to wake up. HE IS NOT. he is as close as it gets to socialized medicine but in the end all it is is huge subsidies to poor people. wich is 95% of this country. I wish he would socialize medicine in this country so he can cut off the pork fat in corparations and government that get rich everytime someone gets sick. if you subsidize it, you need money. if you get rid of the insurance companies, poof, problem solved.
 
Excuse me, I meant to say, from the year after it was enacted until 1991, homicide rates rose 200%

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2005/may/20/20050520-081040-3508r/

Yeah, they were really bad from 1988-1996. In fact, if you look, the Sega Genesis was released in 1988 (one of the first 16-bit video game systems). In 1996, the Nintendo 64 was released, in sync with a decrease in violence.

Lol, now there's a funny correlation (but we are off topic guys, PJK said to stop!)
 
The VP debate was pretty non-descript. I don't know if everyone caught it, but I heard this and laughed after our conversation about this type of thing- the first the Palin said on stage to Biden was, "Can I call you Joe?"
 
wow the VP debate was pretty interesting. IMO Palin was inconsistent while answering her questions and often had no cover for Biden's attacks. On the other hand Biden had a cover for every single one of Palin's attacks
 
I have said again and again that I am anti-Obama for quite a few reasons, and what I saw tonight did not change it. However, there is no chance in hell that she should be allowed into the white house. I personally am still against Obama and for Barr, but Palin was a terrible choice. I personally though would like to see Obama promise Wesley Clark a high position in his government and I would like to see him promise to put George W. Bush and **** (lol his first name got edited by the censor) Cheney on trial on criminal charges.
 
I have said again and again that I am anti-Obama for quite a few reasons, and what I saw tonight did not change it. However, there is no chance in hell that she should be allowed into the white house. I personally am still against Obama and for Barr, but Palin was a terrible choice. I personally though would like to see Obama promise Wesley Clark a high position in his government and I would like to see him promise to put George W. Bush and **** (lol his first name got edited by the censor) Cheney on trial on criminal charges.

good lord ethan, is there anything we dont agree on?

i do have some favorite moments from tonight:
when Palin was asked a question(i forgot what it was, mainly because she didnt answer it) she started talking about the difficulties of raising a family. then Biden was like "When my wife and daughter died and i had to raise my family by myself..." and all the feedback lines(i was watching on CNN) shot to the top. she kind of got rocked there.

then when Palin was talking about kids getting extra credit for watching the debate and Gwen Ifill(the moderator) made a joke about "everyone's getting extra credit tonight" and no laughed. then Palin made fun of Gwen because nobody laughed at her joke. My friends and i were hoping that Gwen would just throw out the next question and say "Governer Palin, how has your stance on abstinence-only sex education changed since your unwed teenage daughter did the nasty with some random guy and now she's all Preggers?"
 
My friends and i were hoping that Gwen would just throw out the next question and say "Governer Palin, how has your stance on abstinence-only sex education changed since your unwed teenage daughter did the nasty with some random guy and now she's all Preggers?"
LOL, seriously, you're gonna get me in trouble at school, that's amazing!
But no, asking a question like that would be sexism, cause that's what it is whenever they ask Palin a hard question.
 
Yes, well, if all the questions are easy for Biden, you can't ask Palin hard ones. That just wouldn't be fair.

Oh, you mean hard questions like, how being close to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, or what newspapers she reads?
 
Or naming a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade?
Come on. I'm in high school and I can name at least five...
Brown v. Board
Tinker v. Des Moines
Plessy v. Ferguson
Marbury v. Madison
Gibbons v. Ogden
 
Election tomorrow (even though it's technically the 4th today :p ). Get out and vote! I guess we'll be using this thread for live updates and the like.
 
i feel vaguely sorry for Obama... insofar as you can for someone you've never met. I hear his grandma was very close, and she wont see him become president...
 
Palin uses really bad grammar, even worse than some of the really horrible noobs on this forum; therefore, I'm anti-Palin. I don't really care about who is the president. But McCain is quite old, if he lives, I guess, it would be OK, but if he dies, we are screwed. Palin is an idiot in many many ways.
 
I'm really interested in the results...
I just loved that video where Sarah mocks fruit fly research.
"You wouldn't believe what we are spending research money on... on fruit flies!... I kid you not!"
LOLOLOLOLOLOL she has no clue what she is talking about its so funny :D Fruit flies - the species that forms the absolute cornerstone of all modern field of Genetics? Can't be :D

Lets just say that if McCain wins then the US is looking for some dark times... and I will most definitely give my aspiration to do grad work in the US more thought.
 
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