Reduction vs Yau on 5x5

[SolveThatCube]

When you guys say yau on 5x5 do you mean: solve first 2 centers then the 3 edges then finish centers, solve last edge. Or, solve all centers then the 4 edges?

 

[yoinneroid]

what method does zemdegs or kevin hays use??? i'm really really searching for a 5x5 speedsolving method

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When you guys say yau on 5x5 do you mean: solve first 2 centers then the 3 edges then finish centers

 

[brian724080]

what method does zemdegs or kevin hays use??? i'm really really searching for a 5x5 speedsolving method

They use reduction

 

[FJT97]

But Robert uses yau, I think.
He is fast too

 

[CriticalCubing]

I guess reduction is faster on cubes starting from 5x5

 

[TheNextFeliks]

I guess reduction is faster on cubes starting from 5x5

Pretty much.

 

[scottishcuber]

I guess reduction is faster on cubes starting from 5x5

Pretty much.

Ya guys pretty much.

 

[PeelingStickers]

Yau has potential, but most of the super fast people use redux.

Would be interesting to see a really fast Yau5 solver come through though. I can get decent times with Yau5 despite having done only a few solves with it.

 

[pedrinroque]

Yau has potential, but most of the super fast people use redux.

Would be interesting to see a really fast Yau5 solver come through though. I can get decent times with Yau5 despite having done only a few solves with it.

what you mean with a really fast Yau5 solver? sub1?

 

[uberCuber]

Would be interesting to see a really fast Yau5 solver come through though.

sub1?

Working on it.

 

[PeelingStickers]

what you mean with a really fast Yau5 solver? sub1?

someone who can compete with the world class: eg: Feliks and Hays, so yeah sub 1

 

[Sajwo]

Yau5 is a badass method, but I think reduction is little bit faster (movecount?)

 

[kcl]

Yau5 is a badass method, but I think reduction is little bit faster (movecount?)

Not if you're ubercuber.. Iirc his movecount is lower with yau.

 

[uberCuber]

Yau5 is a badass method, but I think reduction is little bit faster (movecount?)

Figuring out enough details about movecount to decide which method's is better is really difficult because it can vary so much from solve to solve and person to person. For example, compare the movecount in Meep's old WR single to all of the solves in Feliks' WR avg (whichever recent one was fully reconstructed).

For myself, my movecounts with the two methods are pretty close, but Yau5 tends to be slightly lower.

 

[sukesh12]

Kevin uses reduction so does Feliks. For 5x5. For 4x4 Kevin uses reduction and Feliks uses yau.

 

[uberCuber]

I'm not sure what the purpose of your post was in the first place, but,

For 4x4 Kevin uses reduction

this isn't even true >_>

 

[sukesh12]

I posted because a guy wanted to know who used what. Plus, I forgot to quote. Does Kevin use Yau? You are an experienced cuber and you will surely know.
Now I believe he does.

 

[IRNjuggle28]

Has anyone thought about a partial version of yau? Solving only 2 edges with freeslice and having U and F to solve centers instead of just U might be useful for 5x5+. And what about solving all 4 cross edges and putting them on DL, DR, BL, and BR? Might have to do a lot of Rw R' and Lw L', or else find a way to do M effectively, but... idk. Just throwing out ideas. Solving only 2 edges before centers seems viable.

 

[Rocky0701]

I posted because a guy wanted to know who used what. Plus, I forgot to quote. Does Kevin use Yau? You are an experienced cuber and you will surely know.
Now I believe he does.

Kevin uses Yau on 4x4 and Reduction on big cubes.