What could be the fastest speed?

I think eventually people will begin changing the genetics of people to make them better at something and there's no real way to tell the absolute fastest humanly achievable time because you'd have to define at what point they are not people. There isn't really any definite point at which you can say that though, so there's no real answer.
Some of the best speedsolvers in the world have been estimated to have up to 17 TPS on average.

This wouldn't be so hard if you insert (R U R' U') in enough times before you do the PLL. :D
 
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Snyder's 'method' is complete vapourware and doesn't actually exist.
That's a polite way of saying it! A speedcubing method with move count below the FMC WR? Don't think so. The human brain needs 'stages' or 'steps' to break the cube down - any human method will inevitably be sub-obtimal. With Roux growing in popularity, I'd hope more time will be spent on it, and more variations developed. Maybe this, OLS and other CFOP developments, or, as Kong says, ZZ with ZBLL could give a method which averages possibly 40-45ish moves?!

I think eventually people will begin changing the genetics of people to make them better at something and there's no real way to tell the absolute fastest humanly achievable time because you'd have to define at what point they are not people. There isn't really any definite point at which you can say that though, so there's no real answer.
Really????

I think you'll find that elective genetic procedures are illegal, and procedures of the type you're referring to are probably a generation away. There's little point speculating though - the purpose of this thread is to discuss the possible fastest speed that HUMANS are capable of, not computers, cyborgs, etc.!

So back on-topic, I'd say a method with a 40-45 move count is possible. 15TPS, on the other hand, probably isn't! 10-12 maybe, but not consistently.

I'd imagine we'll see an official sub-5 single in the next few years, and a sub-7 average. Realistically, I think sub-4 singles and sub-5 averages would be close to the limit of human potential.

Edit: sub-4 single using a method that averages 45 moves (possibly a lucky scramble - c.40-45 moves) = 10-11.25 TPS

sub-5 averages using a method that averages 45 moves = 9 TPS
 
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That's a polite way of saying it! A speedcubing method with move count below the FMC WR? Don't think so. The human brain needs 'stages' or 'steps' to break the cube down - any human method will inevitably be sub-obtimal. With Roux growing in popularity, I'd hope more time will be spent on it, and more variations developed. Maybe this, OLS and other CFOP developments, or, as Kong says, ZZ with ZBLL could give a method which averages possibly 40-45ish moves?!


Really????

I think you'll find that elective genetic procedures are illegal, and procedures of the type you're referring to are probably a generation away. There's little point speculating though - the purpose of this thread is to discuss the possible fastest speed that HUMANS are capable of, not computers, cyborgs, etc.!

So back on-topic, I'd say a method with a 40-45 move count is possible. 15TPS, on the other hand, probably isn't! 10-12 maybe, but not consistently.

I'd imagine we'll see an official sub-5 single in the next few years, and a sub-7 average. Realistically, I think sub-4 singles and sub-5 averages would be close to the limit of human potential.

Edit: sub-4 single using a method that averages 45 moves (possibly a lucky scramble - c.40-45 moves) = 10-11.25 TPS

sub-5 averages using a method that averages 45 moves = 9 TPS

It's only a matter of time until Faz or Alex get a sub5 single and a sub7 average.
 
I think theoretically someone could hit 30 tps... I was attemping to go as fast as possible and i got a 32 tps using RUR'U' in like .124 second. We just need some genetic engineering to modify our brains to go as fast as our hands can go, then we will 2 second average... :D
 
I think theoretically someone could hit 30 tps... I was attemping to go as fast as possible and i got a 32 tps using RUR'U' in like .124 second. We just need some genetic engineering to modify our brains to go as fast as our hands can go, then we will 2 second average... :D
But we can't do 32 TPS at everything, even prepared solves where we don't have to think. Try doing an F perm at 32 TPS.
And just four moves isn't a good indication of TPS. The result is changed significantly by your timer start. Try doing something like (R U R' U')*6, or even better *24.
 
But we can't do 32 TPS at everything, even prepared solves where we don't have to think. Try doing an F perm at 32 TPS.
And just four moves isn't a good indication of TPS. The result is changed significantly by your timer start. Try doing something like (R U R' U')*6, or even better *24.

My max on that is 1.07
 
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