Secret Petrus technique REVEALED

[ErikJ]

I've had this "secret technique" I've been using for around a month and now I figure it's time I tell people about it. I still need practice but so far it's been working pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yn1wLkC1eI

 

[somerandomkidmike]

That's a great idea. I'm gonna try it since i use petrus for OH anyway.

 

[Dene]

Wow, you're fast

 

[AvGalen]

Very interesting idea!

Make the F2L shorter by allowing a bad corner and don't get punished for it in move count later. I don't think it is as fast as 4th-pair + OLL, but that will largely depend on the cases you get.

 

[ErikJ]

Very interesting idea!

Make the F2L shorter by allowing a bad corner and don't get punished for it in move count later. I don't think it is as fast as 4th-pair + OLL, but that will largely depend on the cases you get.

yeah, 4th pair and OLL are pretty fast but the faster blocks make up for it.

 

[MistArts]

Very interesting idea!

Make the F2L shorter by allowing a bad corner and don't get punished for it in move count later. I don't think it is as fast as 4th-pair + OLL, but that will largely depend on the cases you get.

yeah, 4th pair and OLL are pretty fast but the faster blocks make up for it.

You can build a Triple-x cross anyway you want...

 

[DavidWoner]

if i used petrus i would totally learn that. its a great idea, and you did a nice job of explaining it. well done!

 

[AvGalen]

Very interesting idea!

Make the F2L shorter by allowing a bad corner and don't get punished for it in move count later. I don't think it is as fast as 4th-pair + OLL, but that will largely depend on the cases you get.

yeah, 4th pair and OLL are pretty fast but the faster blocks make up for it.

Correction: less moves for blocks could theoretically make up for it.

It is time for a block solver to prove it before making claims like this

 

[fanwuq]

Not a new idea, but it is a very nice idea. I would learn it after I get better at making F2L.

 

[rachmaninovian]

so its 3x2x2 + last edge + 3rd f2l + ELS + CLS + PLL?

 

[blah]

Sorry if I'm appearing to be rude or anything, but how is this a new idea? And how is it a secret? I've been thinking about using this ever since I discovered MGLS, too bad I've switched to Fridrich by the time I've discovered MGLS, so I've never used it, long story, yeah.

 

[ErikJ]

so its 3x2x2 + last edge + 3rd f2l + ELS + CLS + PLL?

no, I just put the twisted corner anywhere in the F2L. I hardly ever put it in the last slot.

it could be in the 2x2x2 block. that's why it's a new idea.

 

[Athefre]

I seriously doubt many people have thought of this, I really like the idea but I don't use Petrus or Fridrich. Would this be faster than just recognizing four corners on the LL instead of five (four on LL, 1 on D - MGLS)?

Keep working on your times, I want to see you (and Johannes, and whoever else) catch up to Fridrich.

Correction: less moves for blocks could theoretically make up for it.

It is time for a block solver to prove it before making claims like this

I thought it was already obvious that there was a balance:

Fridrich F2L Pair:
No thought, more moves to pair and insert

Block Method Pair:
No thought but you go slower for improved look-ahead, less moves to pair and insert

 

[ErikJ]

Would this be faster than just recognizing four corners on the LL instead of five (four on LL, 1 on D - MGLS)?

Correction: less moves for blocks could theoretically make up for it.

It is time for a block solver to prove it before making claims like this

I thought it was already obvious that there was a balance:

Fridrich F2L Pair:
No thought, more moves to pair and insert

Block Method Pair:
No thought but you go slower for improved look-ahead, less moves to pair and insert

my reco for the cases has gotten a lot better since I started. The D corner doesn't make it any harder. it just tells weather I have to do a reflection or not.

These algs are less efficient than OLL and the easier block building probably compensates for it a bit. but they make up for anything else with their speed.

 

[Athefre]

my reco for the cases has gotten a lot better since I started. The D corner doesn't make it any harder. it just tells weather I have to do a reflection or not.

These algs are less efficient than OLL and the easier block building probably compensates for it a bit. but they make up for anything else with their speed.

So is it just a different way of solving and not really an improvement (especially considering the amount of cases to learn)? I just looked at the cases on the site and they are very fast so if it is an improvement, it seems like a very small one. But I guess "Every little bit helps".

 

[cubeRemi]

I think it is awesome in the nasty cases where the corner edge is paired up but the corner is twisted. maybe it will not make your best times faster, but your slow times will be faster.

I think I'll learn the corner in place cases.