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Hey everyone, I'd like some advice based on this 37.98 second solve. My thoughts on this is that I need to work on my turning accuracy and look-ahead?
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Thanks for the feedback, and I remember you. I will look into ZZ, but probably not until after new years. When it comes to learning algs, I'm pretty lazy, but I'm sure I will get to full PLL and some COLL's eventually.If you stick with Petrus and finish learning the PLLs, I advise learning at least the H and Pi COLL sets. These will force edge-PLLs (U, H, Z perms) and increase the likelihood of a PLL skip. These COLLs are easy to recognize and very ergonomic to execute, leaving you with a very favorable PLL.
For my serious 2-hand sessions recently, I solve around 90% of the solves with ZZ and 10% with Petrus (whenever the eoline is crap or there is an easy 2x2 block in the scramble). I average ~13 and ~16 respectively. ZZ and Petrus are very similar in stepwise approach, and the movecount for each is largely comparable. The only vast difference between ZZ and Petrus is that ZZ requires zero cube rotations. I'm not going to suggest that you switch methods. But if you ever have a free moment or two, look over this page and do a few untimed exploratory solves. It can't hurt. And if you ever get a scramble with a sucky first block, take a risk and ZZ it out.
And I'm Matt from the bookstore cubemeet by the way.
Good luck!
Thanks for your feedback! If I'm competing in any sort of forum competition, I scramble white/green, but I decided I didn't need to here. For turning, would you recommend something like this?With the first solve, I saw a couple of things.
1. White top, green front. Remember that.
2. Your turning seems to be a bit too fast; slow down a tad and focus a bit less on what comes next.
3. Petrus isn't really known to be the fastest method out there; don't want to force you to, but feel free to try CFOP and Roux.
Ok, 5BLD and pandacuber and any other rouxers: im going to give a scramble and my solution with roux. tell me what i could of done different/better.
U2 B' F D' U' F' U' B U2 D B U2 R2 D' L2 B F2 D' B' U' R' U L' B' F2
x y2
first block: D R U2 R U' L U L' U2 R U2 F U F'
second block: M U' R2 (R U R' U' x2) (R U R') U R' U R U R' U2 R U2 R' U R
orienting corners: U (headlights case)
fixing bad edges: U M' U M' U' M' U M' U2 M' U M'
Permuting corners: (Y perm)
UR UL edges: U2 M' U2 M U M2 U
L6E: U2 M2 U2 M2
i average around 40-50 seconds with roux, about 31 with CFOP, and i definitely want to switch, but i want to get my roux average times as close to my CFOP average as possible. all help wanted![]()
does the order of the CMLL steps matter? will it improve my times if i do it the "right" way? also, it would help if you could tell me how you would do it as soon as you get near a cubeWell, I don't have a cube near me, but I can already see a few things that are pretty bad. First off, your first block is wayyyy to inefficient, even for a beginner. Try limiting yourself to 10 or 11 moves maximum for the first block. Secondly, I can tell that you do the second block F2L style, which is just inefficient and will slow you down overall. Thirdly, the steps of Roux are in a different order than you executed them in. It goes first block, second block, CMLL (in one or two steps), EO, UL UR, LSE.
My solve for U2 B' F D' U' F' U' B U2 D B U2 R2 D' L2 B F2 D' B' U' R' U L' B' F2does the order of the CMLL steps matter? will it improve my times if i do it the "right" way? also, it would help if you could tell me how you would do it as soon as you get near a cube![]()
Ok, 5BLD and pandacuber and any other rouxers: im going to give a scramble and my solution with roux. tell me what i could of done different/better.
U2 B' F D' U' F' U' B U2 D B U2 R2 D' L2 B F2 D' B' U' R' U L' B' F2
x y2
first block: D R U2 R U' L U L' U2 R U2 F U F'
second block: M U' R2 (R U R' U' x2) (R U R') U R' U R U R' U2 R U2 R' U R
orienting corners: U (headlights case)
fixing bad edges: U M' U M' U' M' U M' U2 M' U M'
Permuting corners: (Y perm)
UR UL edges: U2 M' U2 M U M2 U
L6E: U2 M2 U2 M2
i average around 40-50 seconds with roux, about 31 with CFOP, and i definitely want to switch, but i want to get my roux average times as close to my CFOP average as possible. all help wanted![]()
Hey everyone, I'd like some advice based on this 37.98 second solve. My thoughts on this is that I need to work on my turning accuracy and look-ahead?
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total 30.30 75 2.48 113 3.73 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
cross 9.07 11 1.21 26 2.87 cross/F2L 43.9% 24.4% 35.6%
F2L 20.64 45 2.18 73 3.54 F2L/Total 68.1% 60.0% 64.6%
LL 9.66 30 3.11 40 4.14 LL/Total 31.9% 40.0% 35.4%
Average of 5: 17.86
1. (15.22) L2 B2 R2 U' L2 U2 R2 D B2 U L' B' F2 R D B U' B2 L R'
2. (20.56) R2 D2 B' R2 U2 F' U2 F L2 D2 R2 D U2 R' U2 R' F D B2 F
3. 19.73 F' D2 F' L2 B' L2 B2 F' R2 U2 R B2 U' F D' L' F2 D' B R
4. 16.63 L' B' R2 L' U F D R F R2 B2 D2 L2 F2 R2 D F2 U L2 D'
5. 17.23 D F B R' L F D F2 U F R F' R2 B U2 D2 L2 F2 R2 L2 F'
Tell me what I'm doing wrong please! I have my own ideas, but I'd like some outside advice as
Your tps during F2l is far too fast. I'm sure this is what you already were thinking, but you very quickly insert a pair, then search the cube for your next pair.
@noahaha
We average almost exactly the same. During f2l you are turning way too fast, this causes you to have pauses while searching for the next pair. Try turning at a constant rate with no pauses for a day. I did that and it helped tremendously. Also you did several things like U Ui or U3, this is just wasted moves and could be avoided if looked ahead properly. Your tps is great, but too many pauses to make it worth while. Slow, constant tps solves will help you greatly.
I think he said on FB that he's going to see how fast he can get without lookahead and only turning as fast as possible, but I'm not sure if that changed now.
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="Red"]Total 15.22 66 4.34 78 5.12 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 5.31 16 3.01 20 3.77 Cross+1/F2L 46.1% 32.0% 33.3%
F2L 11.52 50 4.34 60 5.21 F2L/Total 75.7% 75.8% 76.9%
LL 3.70 16 4.32 18 4.86 LL/Total 24.3% 24.2% 23.1%
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="Red"]Total 20.56 74 3.60 93 4.52 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 4.34 17 3.92 21 4.84 Cross+1/F2L 33.7% 41.5% 37.5%
F2L 12.88 41 3.18 56 4.35 F2L/Total 62.6% 55.4% 60.2%
LL 7.68 33 4.30 37 4.82 LL/Total 37.4% 44.6% 39.8%
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="Red"]Total 19.73 65 3.29 80 4.05 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 5.54 14 2.53 19 3.43 Cross+1/F2L 44.1% 40.0% 40.4%
F2L 12.55 35 2.79 47 3.75 F2L/Total 63.6% 53.8% 58.8%
LL 7.18 30 4.18 33 4.60 LL/Total 36.4% 46.2% 41.3%
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="Red"]Total 16.63 60 3.61 75 4.51 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 3.08 10 3.25 15 4.87 Cross+1/F2L 26.1% 23.8% 26.8%
F2L 11.78 42 3.57 56 4.75 F2L/Total 70.8% 70.0% 74.7%
LL 4.85 18 3.71 19 3.92 LL/Total 29.2% 30.0% 25.3%
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="Red"]Total 17.23 69 4.00 79 4.59 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 4.63 16 3.46 19 4.10 Cross+1/F2L 39.0% 34.8% 34.5%
F2L 11.88 46 3.87 55 4.63 F2L/Total 68.9% 66.7% 69.6%
LL 5.35 23 4.30 24 4.49 LL/Total 31.1% 33.3% 30.4%
Average (removing fastest and slowest solve)
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total 17.86 64.67 3.62 78.00 4.37 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 4.42 13.33 3.02 17.67 4.00 Cross+1/F2L 36.6% 32.5% 33.5%
F2L 12.07 41.00 3.40 52.67 4.36 F2L/Total 67.6% 63.4% 67.5%
LL 5.79 23.67 4.09 25.33 4.37 LL/Total 32.4% 36.6% 32.5%
Mean (5/5)
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total 17.87 66.80 3.74 81.00 4.53 [/COLOR] [B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
Step Time STM ETM[/B]
Cross+1 4.58 14.60 3.19 18.80 4.10 Cross+1/F2L 37.8% 34.1% 34.3%
F2L 12.12 42.80 3.53 54.80 4.52 F2L/Total 67.8% 64.1% 67.7%
LL 5.75 24.00 4.17 26.20 4.55 LL/Total 32.2% 35.9% 32.3%
Best from each field
[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total 15.22 60 4.34 75 5.12[/COLOR]
Cross+1 3.08 10 3.92 15 4.87
F2L 11.52 35 4.34 47 5.21
LL 3.70 16 4.32 18 4.86