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Magics Removed from WCA Events List in 2013?

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Dang it. Gotta get back into the top 100 for mmag avg before it's archived. I used to be ranked 70th but now I'm 101st.
I'm not that disappointed, though. Getting rid of magics will give everybody more time to focus on more important event, during practice and during competitions. Sucks for the WR holders though. USA will be losing half of it's WRs.

EDIT: I actually don't care about getting back into the top 100. I don't like it anymore. I'm done with magics. Echoing what Mitch said, I don't even feel like practicing for Nats or even competing in them (but I paid for them, so might as well). I won master magic four times, I'm satisfied with that.
 
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Oh nice, I like magics and all but we all saw this one coming from a mile away. I will admit that this is the worst time to post news like this because it is less than 3 weeks from Nats, I don't even want to practice these events for Nats.
I can see where Tyson is coming from, judging the event is too difficult and many penalties have gone unnoticed. Since most fast magic solvers will solve in about <1.3 seconds if you even blink you could miss some of the solve. Some people have made it clear that only experienced judges should judge magic solves. I know for a fact that in some places people that have never judged before will judge solves for fast magic. I have seen it happen, and it has happened to me.
Master Magic is no different, it takes 3 times longer but it still has the same basic concept. Solve. Done.
Magic has nothing to do with Rubik's Cube other than it being a Rubik's product. It has always been an event that has been frowned upon, but other events have been frowned on as well.
I enjoy the concept of magic, I just think the way that it is being run as an event is being done wrong because a lot of people don't like it.
Its sad to see it go, but I guess I'm stuck with 15 or so magics and nothing to do with them.
 
mitch1234 said:
Oh nice, I like magics and all but we all saw this one coming from a mile away. I will admit that this is the worst time to post news like this because it is less than 3 weeks from Nats, I don't even want to practice these events for Nats.
I can see where Tyson is coming from, judging the event is too difficult and many penalties have gone unnoticed. Since most fast magic solvers will solve in about <1.3 seconds if you even blink you could miss some of the solve. Some people have made it clear that only experienced judges should judge magic solves. I know for a fact that in some places people that have never judged before will judge solves for fast magic. I have seen it happen, and it has happened to me.
Master Magic is no different, it takes 3 times longer but it still has the same basic concept. Solve. Done.
Magic has nothing to do with Rubik's Cube other than it being a Rubik's product. It has always been an event that has been frowned upon, but other events have been frowned on as well.
I enjoy the concept of magic, I just think the way that it is being run as an event is being done wrong because a lot of people don't like it.
Its sad to see it go, but I guess I'm stuck with 15 or so magics and nothing to do with them.
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^I totally agree. The magic and master magic events were one of my favourites, but I guess they do have some disadvantages. Looks like I can only participate in 2 more competitions before magic goes. :(
 
Keep magic but have it at the start of comps as a warm up event since hardly any one cares about it and if you do too bad and maybe switch to timing with a Stackmatpro

I do really want it removed since I'd like to complete in very official event and I haven't completed in 2 years but if it goes oh well


Still I have had a broken magic and master magic for a year and a half and didn't care much about It
 
Robert-Y said:
To anyone who cares: Every all rounder needs to improve drastically in every event otherwise Feliks is almost certainly going to become the new leader of the sum of single ranks and average ranks by the end of this year XD. He wont even need to compete :p
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Especially if feet is removed, which is posible. :p

So this year will be the last year that Aus Nationals has Magic and Master Magic at it. I now have the goal of winning both of them, because that would make me national champion at both forever. :D
 
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Higher officials. The discussion among the board and delegates was pretty much unanimously in favor of removing these events.

I can't really imagine any community discussion or vote overturning this decision.
 
samchoochiu said:
is it okay if a democracy takes place here? listening to the voice of the community?
Or are the higher officials going to decide everything?
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Why shouldn't they? People with more experience in the organisation should be the ones to weigh the options and decide what's best.
And this is a decision in the better direction.
 
There was democracy taking place... between the delegates and other officials. Please do not act as if the community is being stabbed in the back or something like that, in reality this was a long time coming.
 
samchoochiu said:
is it okay if a democracy takes place here? listening to the voice of the community?
Or are the higher officials going to decide everything?
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The voice of the community has been heard before, and is being heard right now in this thread. As far as I can tell, there are more people agreeing with the removal than not, and that's despite the fact that people against the removal are more likely to post.
 
Magic could be a a good warm up event for a comp by warm up I mean getting in competion mode. SInce harldy any one cares about it if you fail you don't care.


It could always be brought back but I can't see that happening in a long time if ever


I just want to complete in it before it goes of the officall event list



Will it get replaced with 2 more events?
 
Kirjava said:
I imagine any poll you made would still go in favour of removal.

We are not WSSA, we are puzzle solvers.
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Ture

You created a thread about events to remove with no poll to contrast my thread of events to add in late 2010. I later created a newer theard with a poll early last year. If we were to replace them what with, Skewb and...

People said magics and get mainly


And magics are most like speedstacking than any other wca event, none others are anything close.
 
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