Unveiling of the most anticipated V-CUBE 3

Hi, first time posting, but long time lurker. Normally, I'm too lazy to post, but this cube got me so riled up, that I felt like I had to post. I just received my V3's a few days ago. I got a black assembled, and a black DIY, both the cubic form. I'd have to put it right next to the Gans II as one of the worst cubes I have ever gotten (and most expensive as well, $65 USD for two 3x3x3 cubes including shipping).


Assembled version:

Right off the bat, 2 edge pieces were stuck to center pieces. I had to exert a lot of force to break the bond. I had to sand off the glue/lube or whatever stuck the pieces together to make it smooth.

While the center caps were not glued on, it did take me tremendous effort to pry off the caps. After taking the caps off, I found out that 3 of the 6 "screws" were rivets, thus I could only tension half of the cube. The centers with rivets are also unevenly tensioned.

Of the 12 edge pieces, only 7 of them came with anchors (torpedoes). I noticed some small pieces of excess plastic, probably from the molding. So I took a few of the edge pieces apart to sand down the excess plastic. During this process, 2 of the anchor pieces broke. So now I only have 5 of 12 anchors in my cube.

While I did not have any defects with the corners, I noticed a pretty bad design flaw. The cavity, which the corner caps fit in, are not well designed. The caps fit in, but go in too far, in the sense that the lip of the corner piece is not flush with the edge piece. This means that the edge of the corner piece is sharp.

After lubing with Lubix and re-assembling, I did about 100 solves on it. Since the tensions of the cube are not even, it feels awkward solving it. I get a sense of unbalance with it, which is uncomfortable to me. The cube is pretty clicky/bumpy and locks up quite a bit. It can cut around 1 cubie for the faces that I could tension, but only about 2/3 - 3/4 of a cubie for the riveted faces. It has essentially no reverse cutting (maybe a few degrees at most). The bumpiness is not a nice even feeling like the Alpha II, but it almost feels random. The speed is decent, nothing to write home about. However, due to the lack of all the anchors, the cube pops, not all the time, but enough to be very annoying. I got a pop about 1 every 10 solves or so.


DIY version:

It came with all the parts and a few extras:
- 2 cores
- 6 center pieces
- 6 center caps
- 12 edge pieces
- 12 anchors (torpedoes)
- 23 springs (6 of each strength and 5 extra)
- 8 screws
- 2 sets of stickers

There was a little bit excess plastic on a few pieces, which I sanded down with no problem. I lubed it with the Lubix technique (screw head/spring, core, and a few drops on the pieces). I used the medium springs. I put all the anchors in and assembled. After applying some CubeSmith stickers (I prefer them over pretty much all other types), I did 100 solves.

The DIY felt much better than the assembled version. However, it was not good enough for me to justify the steep price. The DIY performs better than a store bought Rubik's Cube, but it is not on the same level as the Dayan, Alpha, or ShengEn cubes. Since I could tension all the sides on this cube, it can cut about 1 cubie on each side. There is still no reverse cutting, though. It still feels bumpy, but a more even bumpiness. It locks up a bit less, but still pops a bit. Despite the blatant copy of Dayan's anchors, they don't work very well. I got about 1 pop every 15 or 20 solves.

Here is my thought on the drama surrounding the copyright issue. I don't really care about copying designs. Most designs of anything is usually a copied and refined from something else. The keyword here is refined. Look at Alpha. The A1 is basically a smaller Rubik's DIY, with slightly rounded edges. However, each Alpha cube is refined for the purpose of making it better. Not all designs worked, but the process can be seen. This is the same with the Dayan cubes. One may say, "well, the V3 is the first of its type though." However, the V3 looks pretty much like a GuHong beta version or something. The pieces' shapes are pretty much exactly like a GuHong's, but with sharper edges and corners. Clearly, the anchor pieces are copied from Dayan. However, instead of refining the anchors, it seems like they made them worse. They don't work as well and are flimsy and easy to break. Regardless of copyright issues, V-cube must have been aware of the refined designs of its competitors. Even if the V3 was the original V-cube design, which I think is highly unlikely, there is absolutely no point in releasing a cube that is an inferior version of someone's "copy." V-cube had a lot of innovation at first, but then just slowed down/stopped. While Dayan, Alpha, and ShengShou were making more puzzles and refining older versions, V-Cube was sitting there, twiddling their thumbs and releasing things like the Dazzler, Illusion, and Flag cubes (which are just color/sticker variations).

tl;dr
There is no point in purchasing a V3 when there you can get a better performing cube (Alpha V, GuHong II, LinYun II, ZhanChi, etc.. ) for much cheaper and higher consistent quality.
 
Last edited:
What on earth has happened here? It seems like there's a LOT of argument going on – Let's break it down.

DaYan did take some inspiration from the V-5 edge design – it's pretty obvious. But that was pretty much the only thing that they did "steal" from V-Cube. The V-5 corner piece isn't that similar to the GuHong's corner design. The corner on the V-5 is basically a regular Rubik's style corner that's been extended (as Thrawst would put it, a cube on a stick), whereas the DaYan corner is more rounded and sculpted. Also, the anchor is very unique and doesn't look like the Rubik's style anchor on the V-5.

It's true that DaYan's edge looks similar, and they did "copy" it, but what DaYan has done is really take the best elements from every cube and combine them to make their amazing 3x3x3s. Some people think that DaYan is a cheap-o Chinese ripoff manufacturer that makes flimsy ripoffs. The general public thinks so; it's pretty apparent when Seven Towns ordered the seizure of a shipment of DaYans in Germany, and then say that DaYan's are illegitimate knockoffs (when the patent for the 3x3x3 expired YEARS ago). But DaYan doesn't do that. They've advanced cube tech extremely and made possible so much more. DaYan has done something completely different –they've refined 3x3x3s to a level where others simply can't compete. They've had a lot of insight into 3x3x3 development, and their design has reached a point where cubes just can't get much better than how they are right now.

tl;dr – DaYan's are still the best in the business, while the V-Cube 3 is a disappointment. 'Nuff said.
 
it's pretty apparent when Seven Towns ordered the seizure of a shipment of DaYans in Germany, and then say that DaYan's are illegitimate knockoffs (when the patent for the 3x3x3 expired YEARS ago).

Do you have any source on that? I haven't read anything indicating that the seizure in Germany is ordered by Seven Towns, and that the confiscated cubes are DaYans.
 
Here's a video of the unboxing and first impression of the v-cube 3. I'm going to post a full review of the cube soon. Probably tomorrow. If you want to see how it works, check it out!

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Do you have any source on that? I haven't read anything indicating that the seizure in Germany is ordered by Seven Towns, and that the confiscated cubes are DaYans.

I'm not completely sure if they were DaYans, but I know Seven Towns was involved. To be honest, I really wouldn't be surprised if the seized cubes were DaYans, considering how popular they've become.
 
I'm not completely sure if they were DaYans, but I know Seven Towns was involved. To be honest, I really wouldn't be surprised if the seized cubes were DaYans, considering how popular they've become.
In that case, stop making stuff up. Please. Stop bringing dumb assumptions into this discussion.
 
In that case, stop making stuff up. Please. Stop bringing dumb assumptions into this discussion.

It's not a dumb assumption. Please read my entire post before criticizing it. This issue is more important than me making a mistake.

There's really no way that we, the speed cubing community can stop Seven Towns if they decide to declare speed cubes illegal. Everyone here has, at some time, owned a store-bought. But we don't use them. Unlike Verdes, which will suffer if we don't buy their cubes, there's nothing stopping Seven Towns from destroying the speed cubing community because 90% of their revenue comes from non-cubers. That other 10% are us, the speed cubing community, because, face it – everybody starts with a store-bought, whether we want to or not.

So Seven Towns will still be perfectly happy if speed cubes are illegal. They don't even get any money from us anyway. We can't boycott them...

If Seven Fails does go along with this, eventually people will find out that this is a corrupt maneuver and the 3x3x3 patent expired years ago, and speed cubes will have to be legal again. But it may be months, maybe a few years before it comes out, because we, as a speed cubing community aren't that large.

Yes, it is a complex dilemma... We need to find a way to protect DaYan, GuoJia, ShengEn, etc. before Seven Towns gets to them.



Anyway, back to topic, I've heard that the "torpedoes" on the V-3 can break off inside the cube, and I've also heard that they don't do anything to prevent pops because they aren't a torpedo shape, and they aren't long enough.
 
Last edited:
I think it's clear that boycotting Seven Towns won't actually do anything since none of us buy their cubes anyway.

HOWEVER. If you want to actually make some change, get the word out. Have someone write up a notice that SevenTowns is doing serious damage to the very speedcubing community that they use for advertising, and that they are just using their trademark to bully the higher-quality Chinese cube companies. Then, have a lot of cubers spread it on facebook, twitter, blogs, etc. People are pretty anti-corporation these days, and something like this could actually have an impact. If nothing else, we could get a bunch of non-cubers to consider buying a Chinese cube or a V-Cube instead of an Official Rubik's Cube®.
 
It's not a dumb assumption. Please read my entire post before criticizing it. This issue is more important than me making a mistake.
Yes, it was. You said "it's pretty apparent when Seven Towns ordered the seizure of a shipment of DaYans in Germany, and then say that DaYan's are illegitimate knockoffs". You stated this as a fact. If you did not intend to, you should learn to say what you mean correctly.

There's really no way that we, the speed cubing community can stop Seven Towns if they decide to declare speed cubes illegal. Everyone here has, at some time, owned a store-bought. But we don't use them. Unlike Verdes, which will suffer if we don't buy their cubes, there's nothing stopping Seven Towns from destroying the speed cubing community because 90% of their revenue comes from non-cubers. That other 10% are us, the speed cubing community, because, face it – everybody starts with a store-bought, whether we want to or not.
Nice made up numbers, those are very far off.

They don't even get any money from us anyway.
DYK: Seven Towns sponsors competitions? Do you know why they do this? Because it gives them exposure. When competitions are advertised or reported they aren't "Magic Cubic Puzzle Competitions" they are "Rubik's Cube Competitions". Exposure drives sales. Seven Towns aren't stupid; if they didn't get enough sales from competition exposure they wouldn't do it.

If Seven Fails does go along with this, eventually people will find out that this is a corrupt maneuver and the 3x3x3 patent expired years ago, and speed cubes will have to be legal again. But it may be months, maybe a few years before it comes out, because we, as a speed cubing community aren't that large.
Seven Towns does not have the ability to declare "all magic 3x3 cube designs are illegal". They can claim it. Whether or not a cube is illegal actually depends on intellectual property and that isn't going to change just because Seven Towns says so and then change again because a cuber says so.

Yes, it is a complex dilemma... We need to find a way to protect DaYan, GuoJia, ShengEn, etc. before Seven Towns gets to them.
You people need to stop making Seven Towns out to be some sort of evil monster. Seriously.
 
I think it's clear that boycotting Seven Towns won't actually do anything since NONE of us buy their cubes anyway.

HOWEVER. If you want to actually make some change, get the word out. Have someone write up a notice that SevenTowns is doing serious damage to the very speedcubing community that they use for advertising, and that they are just using their trademark to bully the higher-quality Chinese cube companies. Then, have a lot of cubers spread it on facebook, twitter, blogs, etc. People are pretty anti-corporation these days, and something like this could actually have an impact. If nothing else, we could get a bunch of non-cubers to consider buying a Chinese cube or a V-Cube instead of an Official Rubik's Cube®.

Rethink about what you said was the first 3x3 you owned a Rubiks brand or Dayan brand
 
Rethink about what you said was the first 3x3 you owned a Rubiks brand or Dayan brand

Neither, it was a dollar cube (aka generic Chinese cube) from eBay (for me).

Even if cubers own Seven Town products, that money is already spent. They already have it. Boycotting them won't do anything if you weren't going to be buying from them anyway.

On the other hand, if you are making people purchase Chinese brand, then yes, it is a loss of sale, but only if they were planning to buy a Rubik's brand cube and you changed their mind.
 
I'm done wasting my time with you. I've had enough. You can critique my posts all you want, but nobody is going to care. And neither am I.

You've complained before about people "critiquing posts" before. I think you misunderstand the difference between arguing against what somebody has said and critiquing. If you are not able to accept people arguing against things which you have said you should not post. Good luck with the Internet.

What I said about Seven Towns sponsoring competitions was relevant; you said that they don't make money off us and this is just not true.
 
You've complained before about people "critiquing posts" before. I think you misunderstand the difference between arguing against what somebody has said and critiquing. If you are not able to accept people arguing against things which you have said you should not post. Good luck with the Internet.

What I said about Seven Towns sponsoring competitions was relevant; you said that they don't make money off us and this is just not true.

It's the way you argue that irks me. Instead of debating the subject, you make it personal. Such as when you said "dumb assumptions". There was clearly no need to say dumb. Even if you weren't implying anything, it made it seem like you dislike me on a personal level.

Anyway, what I was saying was, they don't make money off of us buying their cubes. I know they sponsor our competitions, but do we buy Rubik's brand cubes for speed cubing? No, we really don't. That's why boycotting them really won't do anything. We need them to sponsor our competitions, so we have to let them do what they want. And on top of that, we don't even buy their cubes anyway.

So yeah. That's the problem.
 
It's the way you argue that irks me. Instead of debating the subject, you make it personal. Such as when you said "dumb assumptions". There was clearly no need to say dumb. Even if you weren't implying anything, it made it seem like you dislike me on a personal level.

Anyway, what I was saying was, they don't make money off of us buying their cubes. I know they sponsor our competitions, but do we buy Rubik's brand cubes for speed cubing? No, we really don't. That's why boycotting them really won't do anything. We need them to sponsor our competitions, so we have to let them do what they want. And on top of that, we don't even buy their cubes anyway.

So yeah. That's the problem.

I know away to make a brand new Rubik's 3x3 to be close to being good as a dayan 3x3
 
I know away to make a brand new Rubik's 3x3 to be close to being good as a dayan 3x3

A Rubik's 3x3 has a lot of potential because it is the worst cube out of the box EVER. You can't improve a Dayan as much because it's amazing out of the box. You can't do many very significant mods with a Dayan (maybe 2 or 3), but with a Rubik's, you can:
Sand cubies down
Change the core to an adjustable one (I hope I spelt adjustable right)
Lubricate it
Some smaller mods
And probably more I can't think of.
And what is your way out of curiosity? I could make my old storebought a little better.
 
Back
Top