Unveiling of the most anticipated V-CUBE 3

[rubiksarlen]

what?! check their Facebook page again, the posts they deleted are somehow there again!

 

[Meep]

It says someone commented, it would be interesting to know what they said.

I was the one who commented, and said that Speedsolving isn't the entire cubing community, which you tried to say you were representing. I also added some bits about how a lot of people posting there are being ignorant, and that while V-Cubes' decisions/responses to people at the moment aren't the best, it's almost understandable considering how some people are arguably harassing them.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

Ok fine.



What did the deleted comments have to do with the quality of their cubes?

And you people trying sooooo hard to see evil ought to realize that you're talking about facebook. facebook! Since when is that the appropriate place for anything but fun/interesting/constructive talk? Never noticed there's only a like-button, no dislike-button? It's good that V-Cube deletes the clutter, doesn't have to be them trying to "hide" anything. Do you also think that whenever the mods in this forum delete something, they do so to hide something that made them look bad? Not all content is welcome, and that's nothing unusual or bad.

Valid point, but I will not agree fully. No reason to get mean tough. I realise some content might not be welcome, but this is a forum, and I see a difference between that and a company that produces stuff. I believe facebook is a perfectly good place to discuss this type of things, as other people will see it. I might have chosen the wrong expression, even tough some of the comments had to do with quality. But they may, or may not, have been trying to hide the fact that they acted like ******s. Sure, some of the people on facebook did too, but the customer always have the right to say what he feels, and doesn't always have to do so in a professional way. Remember that this started with a simple question regarding the obvious torpedoes, and that whoever is behind that account started raging even before someone had said anything offensive. Of course people will get mad. You might be right that they deleted comments to "clean up", or maybe they want to look like the perfect beloved cubing company. Only they know, and I think I'm done here

 

[Stefan]

No reason to get mean tough.

So why did you? You and the others suggesting somewhat unethical reasons when, as you acknowledged now, "only they know"? That's mean.

but the customer always have the right to say what he feels

As does the seller. The customer is no higher being or whatever. Customer and seller are partners in a deal and neither is somehow "worth more". Customers with a "The customer is always right" attitude are egomaniacs.

whoever is behind that account started raging even before someone had said anything offensive.

Well, looks like from his perspective/understanding, he saw people wrongly suggesting that his company was stealing. How is that not offensive? Also, where's the "rage"?

 

[TheMachanga]

Yes. There is a store I found in the mall called "The marble brain games" where I found a v cube 5, 7, and pillowed 2. I bought the 7x7.
I'm regretting it because it sucks ****.

Ok, I haven't been cubing much lately, but after reading this thread, I have to ask:

Why do so many people think V-Cube cubes suck now?

The v-7 is a great cube, did you even bother breaking it in and lubing it? Since when was their so much hate? I still like V-cubes, they introduced 3 great cubes with great mechs and gave us the 6x6 and 7x7. I don't know why so many people are complaining about the situation. V-cubes must be pretty pissed off about you guys' attitude too. So what if they used torpedos? That was an innovative invention by Dayan, but remember that Dayan still took the cones.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

So why did you? You and the others suggesting somewhat unethical reasons when, as you acknowledged now, "only they know"? That's mean.

Well I was only speculating. On their facebook page tough, I wasn't being mean. I was only upset that they refused to give a professional answer to a legit question.

As does the seller. The customer is no higher being or whatever. Customer and seller are partners in a deal and neither is somehow "worth more". Customers with a "The customer is always right" attitude are egomaniacs.

Of course the seller does. But as a seller, you are expected to do it in a professional way. I wouldn't say that I'm an egomaniac, and of course, the customer is sometimes completely wrong. But here in Sweden, most people live by "the customer is always right". I understand this is frustrating to some sellers, and it might work very different in Greece, but I'm Swedish, and I can't do anything about that.

Well, looks like from his perspective/understanding, he saw people wrongly suggesting that his company was stealing. How is that not offensive? Also, where's the "rage"?

Rage is a strong word, but it was the best I could come up with. At the very least he or she was very mad. And with all due respect, but I still don't understand why they didn't make a professional explanation of the case in the first place. Just saying "everyone steal from us, we never steal. You are not welcome here" is not how a company should respond. Sure, whoever wrote might have tight emotional bonds to the company, but you have to keep emotions and profession apart from each other.

 

[Stefan]

they refused to give a professional answer to a legit question

What if they simply didn't understand the question? Just because you happen to know what torpedos are, doesn't mean everybody at V-Cubes does.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

What if they simply didn't understand the question? Just because you happen to know what torpedos are, doesn't mean everybody at V-Cubes does.

First of all, I wasn't the one who asked in the first place. Secondly, someone explained what it was, and made a very clear explanation. And well, they must know what they've produced, right? PR-guy might not tough, so don't get started on that one

 

[Stefan]

First of all, I wasn't the one who asked in the first place.

Ah right, you did this:

I had to write something on that page just to troll them.

Much nicer indeed.

Secondly, someone explained what it was, and made a very clear explanation.

To me it looks like that was misunderstood.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

Ah right, you did this:
Much nicer indeed.

Well, I might have said that I was trolling them, but still, I did with style. Trolling with style? Well, I didn't just say "hehe u sux lololol", and I did it mostly to make my point of view clear. I just wanted to make a little fun out of it, and therefore wrote, oh crap, they deleted that too. Well I asked how come they have made a cube that "description of the basic concept of a Rubiks Cube" if they never copied anyone. I know there's lot's of shortcomings in that argument, but I wasn't dead serious about it either.

To me it looks like that was misunderstood.

Might be so, but I don't understand how anyone could misunderstand that, the guy even explained what a pop is, and thus, why we need pop-resistancy.

 

[ThomasJE]

It's all about the reputation of the business. It takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch (or whatever that proverb is). I can see the PR guy getting V-Cube in a lot of trouble. If people don't like the customer service, they will just get a Dayan or another brand. What was this all caused by? One comment. One mistake. A mistake which could really hurt V-Cube. Until V-Cube's PR guy makes an apology, then they will keep digging into the hole he got them in. I know that some people won't agree with this at all, but this is my honest opinion.

 

[Bapao]

V-Cube reps aren't always as tactful as one might expect. For those that missed the following 65 page thread, get yourself some coffee and grab a comfortable chair:

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?26141-Dayan-Guhong-vs.-V-Cube-Patent-Infringement

 

[qqwref]

Speaking of that thread, this post was amusing in hindsight:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...t-Infringement&p=507985&viewfull=1#post507985

 

[Dene]

Their 6x6 cube is almost impossible to work with unless it is extensively modded and altered from the original designs, the 5x5 requires some sanding to make it smooth and none of their 5-7 cubes are adjustable (I don't know about the 2x2).

I prefer both the 5x5 and 6x6 unmodded. I know a lot of people don't like the clicking, but everyone that has tried my 6x6 (before it became too loose through extensive use) knows that it turned really well. My old 5x5 was also viewed positively by many people way back in 2009 when I was in the US.

^Me too. I can still read it, but I can't comment, regardless of me liking the page or not. They also deleted all posts that make them look bad, propably so that people will think their cubes are good -.-'

So if someone puts a whole lot of posts on your fb page insulting you, you would leave them there? I doubt it.

Also @BrainsOfSweden the word is spelt "though"; "tough" is a completely different word in English. It's just bugging the crap out of me, that's all.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

So if someone puts a whole lot of posts on your fb page insulting you, you would leave them there? I doubt it.

Also @BrainsOfSweden the word is spelt "though"; "tough" is a completely different word in English. It's just bugging the crap out of me, that's all.

I'm not a company. Also, some of the posts might have been insulting from their point of view, but not all of them. I can understand that they don't want posts like "V-Cubes are good? lol", but that was only one post.
Thanks for enlightening me, I just always misspell some English words. I wont do it again though.

 

[rubiksarlen]

So what's gonna happen when everyone who purchased a V3 gets their order and finds out that we were right about the torpedoes, and what will happen when Dayan finds out?

 

[TimMc]

So what's gonna happen when everyone who purchased a V3 gets their order and finds out that we were right about the torpedoes, and what will happen when Dayan finds out?

I don't think everyone who purchased a V-CUBE 3 has speculated that it may contain torpedos. So it's difficult to answer your first question. Some people might by happy , while some might be sad .

You'd have to ask Bao Daqing (Dayan) to comment. It's difficult say what will definitely happen after he finds out that the V-CUBE 3 either does or does not contain torpedoes. He might be happy , or he might be sad .

I hope that helps.

On an unrelated note: Does the V-CUBE 3 pop easily?

Tim.

 

[Meep]

Have people considered that DaYan possibly doesn't have patents on the torpedoes in the countries that V-Cube has patents in, if at all? Been seeing a lot of people jumping to the conclusion that DaYan can/will take action about it, or that V-Cube is infringing a patent.

 

[~Adam~]

It seems to me that V Cube is trying to gain back the hearts of the speedsolving community with things like the V3 and the adjustable screw sets for 5-7

Really? Where? No more useless overused V cubes?

edit - just checked their website. No sign of these sets. Was that just hope?

 

[amostay2004]

Have people considered that DaYan possibly doesn't have patents on the torpedoes in the countries that V-Cube has patents in, if at all? Been seeing a lot of people jumping to the conclusion that DaYan can/will take action about it, or that V-Cube is infringing a patent.

I think the (sensible) people here are not caring about the legal issues or whether or not DaYan will take any action (because they most likely can't for reasons you stated), but rather how much of a hypocrite V-Cubes will be if they blatantly copy a DaYan design while previously trying to take action against DaYan for copying theirs.