Seven Towns vs. Dayan - Color Scheme Copyright Infringment

[Noob at Cube]

Looks like John Edward has some competition for his Biggest ****** in the Universe Award

I have a ton of cubesmith stickers anyway so the only thing I am concerned about is the availability of orange stickerless cubes.
Hopefully the orange parts will be available for separate purchase.

 

[mrCage]

F*** seventowns!! Can i copyright my cage method or the way i shave? Utter utter stupidity and greed. They have absolutely no credibility left. Sorry seventowns. Sad to see the comapny go down this way. They once sponsored our competitions. We don't need them anymore. It's time to move on :tu

Per

 

[Cubenovice]

They once sponsored our competitions. We don't need them anymore.

I agree this is not a smart move but I sure hope they keep sponsoring. We DO need them.
Large competitions cost money and sometimes people even win tickets to go to large competitions.
Without sponsors such as Seventowns or Jumbo...

Anyway; all this is hear say...
Why don't we just wait and see ?
Untill there is any official statement from parties involved (or some some legal docs about the case pop up) it's all just speculation.

 

[Kirjava]

F*** seventowns!! Can i copyright my cage method

Are you sure that the method is yours?

They once sponsored our competitions. We don't need them anymore. It's time to move on :tu

Seventowns still sponsor our competitions.

 

[chrissyD]

I have just one thing to say to all this....

:fp

 

[mrCage]

Are you sure that the method is yours?

Yes, at least the name is my invention. The method itself is not rocket science, so somebody else must have used it or someting similar before me. And btw. K4 is truly yours :rolleyes:

On the more serious side. Do seventowns sponsor any other competition than the major ones like Euro, World Championships etc.? The smaller ones have local sponsors and/or a small entrance fee, right? Entrance fee for big comps is a good idea. If ppl can afford to book flight and hotel then sure they can afford a competition fee as well.

(End of slightly off-track waffling)

Per

 

[Sebastien]

yes, they do sponsor various other competitions, especially in the UK.

 

[Edward]

Woo, a reason to buy from cubesmith! I've been meaning to give them some more of my money.

 

[Michael Womack]

I dont understand how you define "orange" considering there is a whole spectrum of colours, couldn't Dayan just change the shade?

from what I've seen is that the dayan colors are darker then Rubik's

 

[Kirjava]

Yes, at least the name is my invention. The method itself is not rocket science, so somebody else must have used it or someting similar before me. And btw. K4 is truly yours :rolleyes:

Yeah, I've seen independent creation but you're pretty much the first to develop it properly. Minh Thai uses a similar system

 

[Reinier Schippers]

So with a DIY KIT they still can send the same stickers: Red, Orange, Green, Blue, Yellow and White. Because they aren't put on right?

 

[Godmil]

They could, but I doubt they will, safer to just stick with purple stickers.

 

[ThomasJE]

I've got and old Rubik's brand and a Zhanchi.

Colour comparisons:
White - Zhanchi looks brighter than Rubik
Yellow - Zhanchi is a bit darker than Rubik
Green - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Blue - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Red - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Orange - Zhanchi looks darker than Rubik

The colours are slightly different. That could be to do with the ages of the cubes. But surely, not all the colours would be different. Can you copyright colours? If Seven Towns made better cubes, then it may be viable. If a competitor makes a better cube than yours, you wouldn't stop them making it, you would try and make a better cube. Why wouldn't they stop the production of the cube alltogether if they could? After using my Dayan Zhanchi, I wonder how I did a 34.7 on my Rubik.

Why do people always by a Rubik's first? If you can get a better cube for the same price, then get the better cube. If shops sold a better alternative to the Rubik's (not too much better, a beginner couldn't handle a Zhanchi) for the same price, what cube would they buy? Seven Towns should make better cubes and then more people would use their cube. Surely, they can design and make a better cube for the same price?

I think Lubix should take a storebought, mod it, lube it, re-sticker it (beware of the sticker colour) and maybe sell it, and send one to Rubik to give them ideas of how to improve their cube.

 

[Penguino138]

I think as long as DIY cubes are sent with stickers not on them, it should be fine. I wouldn't think Seven Towns would go to the extreme length of going to everycubers house and checking whether their "offbrand" cube has purple stickers.

 

[Nestor]

I replaced nearly a donen cubes in my collection so that it is white plastic only.

Now this...

 

[Michael Womack]

I replaced nearly a donen cubes in my collection so that it is white plastic only.

Now this...

what was the reason why switching to white?

 

[E3cubestore]

For stickerless cubes, you have three choices:
1. Find an older stickerless cube that still has orange on it.
2. Get over it.
3. Not buy a stickerless cube.

That problem is easily solved, you just buy a guhong or zhanchi in orange plastic and steal the pieces that you need...

One cube would "fix" 6 others so we might actually stock the parts for switching for a couple bucks.

 

[coldplay]

That problem is easily solved, you just buy a guhong or zhanchi in orange plastic and steal the pieces that you need...

One cube would "fix" 6 others so we might actually stock the parts for switching for a couple bucks.

You, sir, are simply a genius. Though you should have kept it to yourself so you could reap all the rewards

 

[The Bloody Talon]

I've got and old Rubik's brand and a Zhanchi.

Colour comparisons:
White - Zhanchi looks brighter than Rubik
Yellow - Zhanchi is a bit darker than Rubik
Green - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Blue - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Red - Zhanchi is darker than Rubik
Orange - Zhanchi looks darker than Rubik

The colours are slightly different. That could be to do with the ages of the cubes. But surely, not all the colours would be different. Can you copyright colours? If Seven Towns made better cubes, then it may be viable. If a competitor makes a better cube than yours, you wouldn't stop them making it, you would try and make a better cube. Why wouldn't they stop the production of the cube alltogether if they could? After using my Dayan Zhanchi, I wonder how I did a 34.7 on my Rubik.

Why do people always by a Rubik's first? If you can get a better cube for the same price, then get the better cube. If shops sold a better alternative to the Rubik's (not too much better, a beginner couldn't handle a Zhanchi) for the same price, what cube would they buy? Seven Towns should make better cubes and then more people would use their cube. Surely, they can design and make a better cube for the same price?

I think Lubix should take a storebought, mod it, lube it, re-sticker it (beware of the sticker colour) and maybe sell it, and send one to Rubik to give them ideas of how to improve their cube.

of course it doesn't have to be the same exact colors for them to claim that dayan cubes looks like a rubik's cube.

IMO. yes, dayan are better speedcubes. But rubik's doesn't focus on being a speedcube.
they focus on being just a puzzle toy for everybody (speedcuber or not) with a good quality.

 

[Cool Frog]

You, sir, are simply a genius. Though you should have kept it to yourself so you could reap all the rewards

You can get custom stickers at puzzle addictions $0.85 for 2 cubes.
much cheaper than buying an orange cube?