So NASA apparently finds a new habitable planet...

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chrissyD said:
I don't think the earth has enough resources to even travel 1 light year never mind 600. I don't think humans will be around long enough to find a way of doing it.

travelling to the moons of Jupiter is probably possible though it would be a waste of resources.
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Do you really think the only intelligent life forms in the universe(that we known of) would go out with a whimper? No, I think the last super power(probably whoever controls Antarctica in the future when it's melted) would but all there reasources into something to ensure species survival.
 
Like Emolover said it is not impossible. We have the technology to go to mars. Why cant we find something that can go farther. If we could make another base for mars specifically then we could keep on going. What Im trying to say is that if we had another rocket at mars then we could go to another planet or moon in the solor system. And keep on going. I like this conversation.
 
Hovair said:
Like Emolover said it is not impossible. We have the technology to go to mars. Why cant we find something that can go farther. If we could make another base for mars specifically then we could keep on going. What Im trying to say is that if we had another rocket at mars then we could go to another planet or moon in the solor system. And keep on going. I like this conversation.
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kindof like over generations of people slowly move to other planets farther and farther away from earth? :D

that would be epic....

also, is it possible to build an artificial atmosphere? I remember hearing about some people trying to do that and failing....?
 
THEN, if we did the slowly migrating type thing,(possibly) eventually it would get to the point where humans would adapt in different ways to their environment and would have different looks/skill sets. Fascinating
 
When we trash Earth we will have to go all Wall-E and develop a ginormous ship where we can produce essentials like nothing. Flying through space on multiple energy sources with no reason to stop might get us there. It doesn't matter since I won't be alive for it.
 
Well, if humans are to do that slow migrating thing, they/we would eventually reach a point where they have to travel a much further distance, since the distance between solar systems is waayyyy vaster than the distance between celestial entities within the same solar system.

I, for one, think that method is silly.
Going really fast would require FTL in order to reach the planet in an amount of time that isn't just stupid, but that's prohibited by special relativity, and I'm pretty sure nobody wants to be travelling in outer space 600+ years. :P
Travel by wormholes might an interesting way of doing things, but they'd have to be artificial, since the nearest (hypothetical) wormhole is in the centre of the Milky Way. (Special relativity only applies locally, so one would, in theory be able to travel at superluminal speeds relative to objects outside of the wormhole, yet subluminal relative to objects within it)
However, out technology is seriously lacking to make such a thing. >.<
 
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Next year on June 6, NASA will get the Hubble Space Telescope to look at the moon. At this moment, Venus will be transiting the sun and will block out about 0.1% of the light reaching the Earth and the Moon. NASA hope to pickup by the use of Hubble's instruments to see the spectra of Venus's atmosphere projected on the Moon. We know what Venus is made of and the composition of its atmosphere, so this will be a test of the method. If this trial works, they will apply it to instruments on future "Earth" size planets round other suns. And be able to say with more confidence that a exo-planet Kepler finds might support life.
 
Phlippieskezer said:
Well, if humans are to do that slow migrating thing, they/we would eventually reach a point where they have to travel a much further distance, since the distance between solar systems is waayyyy vaster than the distance between celestial entities within the same solar system.

I, for one, think that method is silly.
Going really fast would require FTL in order to reach the planet in an amount of time that isn't just stupid, but that's prohibited by special relativity, and I'm pretty sure nobody wants to be travelling in outer space 600+ years. :P
Travel by wormholes might an interesting way of doing things, but they'd have to be artificial, since the nearest (hypothetical) wormhole is in the centre of the Milky Way. (Special relativity only applies locally, so one would, in theory be able to travel at superluminal speeds relative to objects outside of the wormhole, yet subluminal relative to objects within it)
However, out technology is seriously lacking to make such a thing. >.<
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For your wormhole theory, what you are thinking of is not a wormhole, it is "timetravel". Supposedly if you travel around a super massive black hole, such as the one in the center of our galaxy. If a ship that could withstand the speed, pressure, radiation and all that stuff at 90% the speed of light a kind of time travel starts to take place where some gravitational property messes with time so what is time outside of the ship is actually less time in the ship. This is ineffective because at 99% 1 unit of time inside the ship is equal to 2 units of time outside of the ship. It is in effective and dangerous as anything.

I really don't see why we don't invest in space travel anymore. I don't see why America can't put 10% of the 700 billion dollars that is Americas big swinging dick calls the army(and stuff), I don't see why they can't put some money toward the space program's. We should have a base on the moon. We should have the space elevator exist. We should actually make some real progress.

You know what would be cool? Is if some moss or lichen was created that did not need air to survive. They could survive on only sunlight, the nutrients in rocks so they could break it down and creat a type of soil, and would also use some compound in the atmosphere or rocks that have an oxygen element so it could be realised and make an atmosphere. They problem with that is what would be the buffer gas and what you keep the atmosphere sticking to the planet/moon. It would be cool to see the moon green because it's covered in a mossy organism.
 
Hovair said:
Like Emolover said it is not impossible. We have the technology to go to mars. Why cant we find something that can go farther. If we could make another base for mars specifically then we could keep on going. What Im trying to say is that if we had another rocket at mars then we could go to another planet or moon in the solor system. And keep on going. I like this conversation.
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OK.... I give up trying to explain why travelling 600 light years or even 16 light years to the next known solar system is impossible.......
Even travelling to Jupiter is impossible not only because it's a big ball of gas and you would fly straight through it. its 400 million miles away.
Some people here don't seem to realise how far these places are and why they are simply impossible to get to.

emolover said:
Do you really think the only intelligent life forms in the universe(that we known of) would go out with a whimper? No, I think the last super power(probably whoever controls Antarctica in the future when it's melted) would but all there reasources into something to ensure species survival.
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Nothing lasts for ever. That's a fact of life that no human can ever control. Everything we see and love will one day be nothing but dust and we have to accept it.
 
I heard a (to me) horrific theory on how to travel really large distances. What you need to do is not send people, but frozen embrios. So when they reach their destination they can be unfrozen and allowed to grow. But can you imagine a community of babies being brought up by robots? Scary.
 
aronpm said:
emolover you might want to check that post, it was almost incoherent.
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I sorry about that. That is what posting long posts on an iPod gets you.

Godmil said:
I heard a (to me) horrific theory on how to travel really large distances. What you need to do is not send people, but frozen embrios. So when they reach their destination they can be unfrozen and allowed to grow. But can you imagine a community of babies being brought up by robots? Scary.
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By our opinions it would be scary. But they would know anything about being raised by humans. I can see problems arising when they reproduce.
 
Godmil said:
I heard a (to me) horrific theory on how to travel really large distances. What you need to do is not send people, but frozen embrios. So when they reach their destination they can be unfrozen and allowed to grow. But can you imagine a community of babies being brought up by robots? Scary.
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It doesn't have to be that way. You could have a sort of family of astronauts that travel, but I feel that would end badly, considering it would take over 600 years to get there. So it comes down to building bases as stepping stones to there. Once we figure out how to safely control anti-matter for the purposes of space travel, We could eventually leave the solar system and keep going from there.

It could also be something out of Avatar, with people kept in suspended animation throughout the journey.
 
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