Dayan Zhanchi Explodes?! Help Please

[hammerhead]

PERFECT! No you have a visual on what to do. Thanks for posting the link

 

[izovire]

refer to this link http://puzzleaddictions.com/index/mods.html
look at the corner mod ( guhong`s corner ) , remove the excessive plastic. Im pretty sure zhanchi`s corner piece has excessive plastic
( sorry for my bad english )

I was just about to post this actually. So look at picture #4

I noticed the same exact problem when I first tried my Zhanchi. No cube is going to be perfect and not have excess plastic coming out of the mold injections. So you need to use a knife (or sand paper, nail file, etc.) and remove those 3 bumps on each corner piece. Also round the sides just a bit so your anchors can move freely and not lock or scratch.

The 48 point edge mod is only necessary on the guhong. It has raised edges that are excess too. The other 3 Dayans are just fine. Idk why Lubix still does it for the newer cubes.

 

[yockee]

Hey guys, so as I am sure you can tell from the title of this thread, I am having some issues with my dayan zhanchi. It is an amazing cube 95% of the time, but it will randomly explode or a piece will shoot out for no reason during a solve. I am not using the anchors and I am sure that this wouldn't happen if I had them in, but the cube becomes more locky if I do put them in. I have my cube relatively tight, maybe a little looser than it comes stock and I am not a very rough cuber so I don't think it is that.

Is anyone else having this happen? how tight do most people have their Zhanchi's? it would be preferable if you could tell me how many turns loose it is i.e. if you tighten all sides completely, how many turns do you loosen it before you stop. I would appreciate any help people could give me. I might try tightening it, but the randomness of the pops seems fishy to me. Thanks...

I tighten all my Dayans so that when you pull out the centers, you could fit a penny in between the core and center piece.

 

[Akuma]

1. Tighten it.
2. Put anchors in.
or
3. Deal with it.

Proof that the majority of people on this forum are useless twats that would rather provocate a response rather than contribute anything.

The problem seems to be that tensioning the cube makes it slower and harder to turn, however he cube will pop less.

What you need to do is modify it so that it turns smoother even when tensioned higher.
Doing teh entire GuHong Mod (lubing the core, screws everything etc) and the corner and edge mods will cewretainlky do a lot.

DO that and come back and tell us what the results were

 

[kirtpro]

I was just about to post this actually. So look at picture #4

I noticed the same exact problem when I first tried my Zhanchi. No cube is going to be perfect and not have excess plastic coming out of the mold injections. So you need to use a knife (or sand paper, nail file, etc.) and remove those 3 bumps on each corner piece. Also round the sides just a bit so your anchors can move freely and not lock or scratch.

The 48 point edge mod is only necessary on the guhong. It has raised edges that are excess too. The other 3 Dayans are just fine. Idk why Lubix still does it for the newer cubes.

izovire, would you please take pictures on how you would mod the zhanchi? i really admire your work with the guhong and made one myself

 

[Jostle]

Onice, how did it turn out?

 

[izovire]

I just did the mod (same as picture #4) and it is as smooth as butter. It took me ~5 minutes so I will do it on all assembled cube orders free of charge.

 

[The Bloody Talon]

in my experience, tightening the cube can make your cube explode. although loosening it can make it pop.

 

[collinbxyz]

Don't be rough, and keep the tensions slightly tighter...

 

[bluecloe45]

You sure toy got a Zhanchi, Check the edges, if they have big pieces pointing out into the core, thats good, if it doesn't it might perform just like a Lingyun

 

[antoineccantin]

I just did the mod (same as picture #4) and it is as smooth as butter. It took me ~5 minutes so I will do it on all assembled cube orders free of charge.

Only assembled ones! Darn, I should not have got mine as DIY...

 

[izovire]

Only assembled ones! Darn, I should not have got mine as DIY...

It's a really easy mod though... I might do a vid. tutorial this week.

 

[antoineccantin]

It's a really easy mod though... I might do a vid. tutorial this week.

OK, I will make sure to do it when it arrives, thanks!

 

[teller]

I've got the torpedos in, and I find the ZhanChi positively dreamy...not locky at all. Cubes are inconsistent, so maybe I just got a really good one, but if I were you I'd go ahead and put the torpedos in and work on tensioning from there.

It *has* popped on me a few times already, and I am not accustomed to pops. But any time you switch to a new main, there is a period of style adjustment your hands must go through. Some patience is called for, I think.

 

[XaveL]

well i suggest checking your core bro if it still explodes.

 

[Eric79]

[...]I would appreciate any help people could give me. I might try tightening it, but the randomness of the pops seems fishy to me. Thanks...

If I remember right, you saw my review of the cube - go back to it and look how I have my tensions (I show it by how far you can pull the layers apart - I now, not exactly what you ask for, but it gives you a pretty good idea of it). As you also can see, the corner cutting and reverse corner cutting are still that good with the settigns as shown. So try that.

I have tightened it many times and i already said I don't want the anchors. I am mainly curious if others have had this problem and how tight they have theirs.

Again, as said in my Vid, I also prefer the cube more without the anchors. Mine does not explode at all, neither does it pop. So assuming that you try it a bit tighter as you may have is could be the solution.

The 48 point edge mod perhaps? That's the only mod I can think of that people do with their Dayans.
That or you'll just have to put the anchors in.

This is not necessary for the ZhanChi - same as with the V5 mod.

I am still a burst cuber though.

I am not quite sure what a "burst cuber" should be, but if that means that you are very rough and or rushing through your solve I would - no joke - recommend that you get an "old" cube (I don't mean one that already was used for long but one that does by far not allow as much as the DaYan). Thus you learn how to turn more accurate while being fast and this will help you a lot with cubes that tend to pop (I don't consider the ZhanChi being one of them).

The 48 point edge mod is only necessary on the guhong. It has raised edges that are excess too. The other 3 Dayans are just fine. Idk why Lubix still does it for the newer cubes.

OT but: I agree with that. I guess the reason for doing it on the other cube too should only be something like a "selling argument" than it acutally makes sense. Or... ...nah, I better don't say it.

I tighten all my Dayans so that when you pull out the centers, you could fit a penny in between the core and center piece.

Jskyler91, try this too - I have my LingYun even tighter than this and it still can do the same as a looser one is really a great cube with almost no pops at all.

You sure toy got a Zhanchi, Check the edges, if they have big pieces pointing out into the core, thats good, if it doesn't it might perform just like a Lingyun

That also could be possible, but is most likely not the reason. However, if there is excessive plastic from the cast-on section, then remove it - on the edges as well as on the Corners as Izovire shows it on the linked picture.

anyway, even though that does not help: If you really got a Cube that does pop all the time for some strange reason and neither do you want to tighten it more nor do you want to use the anchors - well than your problems are something you will have to deal with.
And finally: It can always happen that you just had bad luck and that you got something (when talking of cars) we call in germany a "Montagsauto" - meaning something that is defektive all the time for no reason. This can just happen and it's bad since there is not much you can do about it.
That's all that came to my mind at this point and I hope that you'll solve the issues that you have with your ZhanChi.

 

[yockee]

^^Ya, I actually forgot to mention that I had already done that. Btw, I know this sound kind of weird and off the topic, but I viewed your youtube out of pure bordem yesterday and we cube in almost the exact same way, with the same times and the same problems of cube rotations/ poor look ahead.

Maybe you did the edge mod too much. Like, maybe you took too much off. You HAVE to have it too loose for it to pop. I don't have mine yet, my my Lunhui never has popped, and there's no way it ever will. I can't even get a corner out. My Gu Hongs never pop either, and they have no anchors. I can't imagine any reason why your Zhan Chi would pop. Not picking on your experience or anything, but you have only been cubing since Feb. Maybe you need more time messing with older cubes first, working with tensions, etc, rather than jumping to a Dayan. Allow yourself to build experience and skill / knowledge of cubes, before going for the gold, if you know what I mean. I've been seriously cubing for almost 2 years, and I just now average 16 - 18 because I spent so much time learning more and more about Fridrich, and cubes instead of just dealing with what I already knew at 6 months. It took me about 8 months to learn full LL.

 

[gundamslicer]

Remove the anchors... It still has the wings on the edge....

 

[aminayuko]

maybe change the core like the lingyun?

 

[JLarsen]

I just did the mod (same as picture #4) and it is as smooth as butter. It took me ~5 minutes so I will do it on all assembled cube orders free of charge.

+1. You've got yourself a new regular customer. Does this apply to the preordered Zhanchi's as well?