L2L4 Website Announcement

[StachuK1992]

Check it out.
It's not too much right now, but it does what is needed, and will still be edited in the coming weeks.
Maybe this will encourage another person to try this?

-statue

 

[somerandomkidmike]

The site looks pretty good. I might try L2L4, but I don't see myself switching from CF permanently.

 

[y235]

Nice website!
How much fast is this can be?

 

[jms_gears1]

statue .

I was mentioned

 

[RyanReese09]

Statue, if you sub20 with this (preferably 18 or less) then I will learn it. Deal? .

 

[jms_gears1]

Reese...

If you need someone else to be fast with a method before you learn it, then dont waste your time.

 

[joey]

Why? I think it's a good idea not to sink that much time into a potentially bad method

 

[teller]

I think this method is insane. But I think Statue is great for going out and exploring the frontier while most of us merely sit back and watch.

 

[a small kitten]

If you need someone else to be fast with a method before you learn it, then dont waste your time.

Learning an entire method is a big commitment. Isn't it understandable that you want some sort of reference before you start? I felt the same with ZZ.

 

[joey]

Except it's even worse for L2L4 than ZZ, since you can't do L2L4 without learning a ton of algs.

 

[Kirjava]

ZZ requires algs too >_>

 

[StachuK1992]

Not nearly as many

Edit:
Just as a note, it's feasible to do the following for some minimal "L2Ln"

FL minus one corner
Finish one slot and the CO. This can be done using F2L techniques, CLS, etc. Your pick. Basically "intuitive" L2Ln-CO.
Hack some perms for CP. Really; a few of my alg were found by doing this, so it's definitely feasible.
Comms for L6E. Basically, just hack some ELLs.


As for my thoughts why this will never be a very popular method:
[18:42] <+statue> Either people hate block building or they hate algs...this has both.
Oh well. At least I can enjoy it.

-statue

Edit2:
[18:43] <+statue> I have an 8hr bus ride tomorrow, and another Sunday
[18:44] <+statue> I'll get some practice in
[18:44] <+statue> trying to decide what to focus on
[18:44] <+statue> maybe one ride for blocks and one for algs

 

[RyanReese09]

Reese...

If you need someone else to be fast with a method before you learn it, then dont waste your time.

.........This method is completely unique. Why would I NOT wait to see if it's potentially fast? <_<

Why? I think it's a good idea not to sink that much time into a potentially bad method

I think this method is insane. But I think Statue is great for going out and exploring the frontier while most of us merely sit back and watch.

Learning an entire method is a big commitment. Isn't it understandable that you want some sort of reference before you start? I felt the same with ZZ.

 

[StachuK1992]

Just gimme like...4 months to be "decent" at it. I should be sub20 by then easy.
Ooh, this means I can be the L2L4 guy at Nationals Maybe this will be like Chris Tran all over again, and some random foreigner will have known the method for years already...

 

[Cool Frog]

Just gimme like...4 months to be "decent" at it. I should be sub20 by then easy.
Ooh, this means I can be the L2L4 guy at Nationals Maybe this will be like Chris Tran all over again, and some random foreigner will have known the method for years already...

I will learn it with you...
Time to get a learnin'
Would it be wrong to force one or two edges into the first layer? In turn for a 2-3 more moves?

 

[jms_gears1]

Except it's even worse for L2L4 than ZZ, since you can't do L2L4 without learning a ton of algs.

not true, I mean you can hack your way through it, thats what im doing until i know the algs.

although for the sake of the argument its a valid point. I just dont think one should wait to see if someone else is fast with it before they use it. Play around with the method, see if you like it, if so then stick with it for a bit, learn algs at a slow pace and if at any point you think you wont get faster then switch back.

 

[EricReese]

Stachu can you show me some of L2L4 at cornell? This has probably already been answered on the wiki but whats the average movecount?

 

[RyanReese09]

Stachu can you show me some of L2L4 at cornell? This has probably already been answered on the wiki but whats the average movecount?

Open the website in your browser. Look in the viewport. You'll see numbers.

 

[hic0057]

Just wondering, wouldn't this method work better with CLL then CO and CP

 

[irontwig]

Just wondering, wouldn't this method work better with CLL then CO and CP

Yes, that's called the Waterman method which has both better move and alg count.