What do you think in your opinion is the most useless WCA event.

[04mucklowd]

I think magic,
not master magic, his is really underrated and everyone should try it
IT IS NOT THE SAME AS MAGIC

 

[antoineccantin]

I knew they were large but I didn't know they were that large. I'll have to go to one since I'm ~4 hours from Toronto.

At the last Toronto competition there were about 135 competitors if I remember well.

 

[vcuber13]

At the last Toronto competition there were about 135 competitors if I remember well.

The one last week had 104 people do 3x3

 

[convinsa]

i love magic!!! i dont really like the idea of clock or feet. but i never tried clock. so....

 

[maggot]

Why bother with divisions? Current regulations allow organizers to limit events. Divisions are just an ugly grouping that doesn't make sense (why is Pyraminx similar to Megaminx?) For somone who competes in just 3x3, Pyraminx, and Magic, that's spanning 3 divisions. And there's a huge difference between someone doing 3x3, Pyraminx, and Magic and someone doing 2x2, 3x3, Pyraminx, Megaminx, Square-1, Clock, OH, Feet, Magic and Master Magic.

Regulations already allow organizers to restrict events, and I've done that before (choose between 5x5 and Megaminx, but not both). People are always concerned about Worlds and making sure that all events can be held there. I think the fix for that is for people to realize that they aren't entitled to do everything. People at MOA complained about some of the cutoff times I had, but people need to start realizing that if you want to do a full average of 5, put some work into it. Also, the majority of competitions aren't Worlds or other major events, they're one-day regional events. They won't have all the events today, and they won't have all of them if new events are added.

it is really easy to make that statement, and i tried to avoid it. however, with speedcubing continuing to grow, where do you see it in 5 years if nothing is addressed? if new puzzles were added? having local competition would be great, however, what would be the turnout in say, alaska? or for countries other than the US (cough china) that do not have many 'local' regional competitions?

i would like to hear how we would handle adding say, 5 events? each of which took as much time as a 4x4 round?

thanks mike for the compliment! i didnt think anyone was listening ; w;

 

[Bryan]

it is really easy to make that statement, and i tried to avoid it. however, with speedcubing continuing to grow, where do you see it in 5 years if nothing is addressed? if new puzzles were added? having local competition would be great, however, what would be the turnout in say, alaska? or for countries other than the US (cough china) that do not have many 'local' regional competitions?

i would like to hear how we would handle adding say, 5 events? each of which took as much time as a 4x4 round?

I don't think adding new puzzles will be that much of an issue. Organizers will continue to choose what they want. Adding 5 events that take as much time as 4x4? I'm guessing there wouldn't be many competitions that would hold all of them.

If a place doesn't have sufficient interest to hold a competition, (like your Alaska example), then don't hold a competition. If they hold one, then there might be more events held because of lower turnout. That's no different from today that if you go to a Midwest competition there are sometimes more event than a Caltech one and you have a better chance of making it to round 2. Of course, I would like to see Alaska and other areas get a chance to host first to avoid the chicken-and-egg scenario that exists, but if turnout is low,don't allow another competition to be held until the low turnout reasons are rectified.

 

[maggot]

i think this is good for hosting competitions.

for issue of adding puzzles, what of worlds? stricter cutoffs? auto qualifying strong cubers and forcing them out of a round?

i understand the way you feel about worlds and obligation to compete in every event. how would you propose that events be added, cubing community increasing, and still being able to hold all events in 3 days? the qualifying events will still take much longer than they do now if you add events? only strong cubers allowed to be able to qualify? force strong cubers to sit out of qualifying rounds?

 

[Bryan]

for issue of adding puzzles, what of worlds? stricter cutoffs? auto qualifying strong cubers and forcing them out of a round?

Just make them pre-qualify. If you're interested in an event that isn't held in your area, take initiative upon yourself to organize a competition. Win-win. People say, "Well, there's no local competitions near me. I don't want to travel anywhere except for Worlds and would like to compete in all the events there with a full average." Well, sorry. That's unreasonable if cubing continues to grow.

i understand the way you feel about worlds and obligation to compete in every event.

Actually, I don't think Worlds needs to hold every event. That's just me.

how would you propose that events be added, cubing community increasing, and still being able to hold all events in 3 days? the qualifying events will still take much longer than they do now if you add events? only strong cubers allowed to be able to qualify? force strong cubers to sit out of qualifying rounds?

What's the problem if they sit out of qualifying rounds? Those are usually "Best of x" anyway.

Try using capitalization. It makes it easier to read your posts.

 

[timeless]

lol feet it costs extra too

"Participants in the Footsolving round will be charged an additional $7 to cover equipment value depreciation and other miscellaneous issues"

 

[irontwig]

3x3 fewest moves

Who cares if you can do it in the least amount of moves? It doesn't matter as long as you're fast!

You do realize that the Rubik's Cube originally was a puzzle rather than a dexterity test, right?

 

[theace]

I guess Magic and master magic are really pointless unless you have to actually SOLVE a scrambled one.

 

[Kenneth]

'6x6 and 7x7 are no harder to solve than a 4x4 and should be removed'. i disagree. while it might not need any more knowledge puzzle theory wise, the ones who solve the 6x6 and 7x7 in the same exact fashion as a basic 5x5 redux will have slow times. im sure the top big cube solvers have tricks to reduce the amount of comms necessary on the L2C, and have much more efficient edge pairing tricks. to me, this is what makes it fresh.

But... redux is the noob method, who said you have to use that? there are other ways

Using my direct solving method anything above 4x4 makes little difference, just more pieces (I don't even do 5x5 anymore because of this, it is just a boring waste of time).

 

[Kirjava]

Using my direct solving method

You have your own method? Wow!!!!!

 

[Kenneth]

You have your own method? Wow!!!!!

You know, here in Sweden we have a saying that goes like "from yourself you know the rest".

Wich is sarcastic...

 

[Kirjava]

idgi

 

[Rune]

You know, here in Sweden we have a saying that goes like "from yourself you know the rest".

QUOTE]

How does that sound in Swedish?

 

[irontwig]

"Genom sig själv känner man andra."

 

[Rune]

"Genom sig själv känner man andra."

I guessed so. Maybe the phrase "through yourself you know others" is more understandable.

 

[linkin182]

You do realize that the Rubik's Cube originally was a puzzle rather than a dexterity test, right?

:tu

 

[Zane_C]

Not that I would vote for any, but I'm surprised no BLD events are listed.