How to be sub 20

[Rpotts]

For that case I recently learned a new alg. Try (M' U') (R' U' R U) M2 (U' R' U r) If that doesn't feel great, I also use it's mirror/reflection. (M U) (R U R' U') M2 ( U R U' r') I used to use M' y (R' U') (R U) (R U) (R U' R') y' M but that alg sucks.

I recommend finishing OLL, once you get used to an alg (if it's good) it will soon be faster than it's 2 look variant. If you have any cases left that 2 look is particularly bad for, like no edges cases that give you headlights or something, learn those OLLs first. The cases that can be solved by F (SM) F' then sune are bottom priority.

 

[blakedacuber]

i kinda thoght myself how to end up wit a sune or headlights or cameleon for the algs i dont know but still the time it takes is not good

 

[ilikecubing]

how do u guys hav sub 15 f2ls....just amazing.my f2l + cross is sub 35:fp .

Is it because i use only my hands and u use fingertricks,or is it because u know all algorithms for advanced f2l cases....or is it bcoz u r pros in multislotting?? plz reply

 

[Fepp]

Made my first sub-20, 19.41

And it wasn't too lucky!

 

[RyanReese09]

how do u guys hav sub 15 f2ls....just amazing.my f2l + cross is sub 35:fp .

Is it because i use only my hands and u use fingertricks,or is it because u know all algorithms for advanced f2l cases....or is it bcoz u r pros in multislotting?? plz reply

honestly just practice..try tracking peices as you insert one (that way you know what to do instantly)

 

[ilikecubing]

honestly just practice..try tracking peices as you insert one (that way you know what to do instantly)

ok but what if d pieces r on back side and i m solving a pair on the front side,and what if a corner is in the D layer and its corresponding edge is in M layer but at some other part of the cube,how wud i track?

 

[RyanReese09]

easy. know what you have to do to solve the f2l case (u should know it)
have ur eyes never leave the peice(s)
try tracking one at first
what i do is i track a corner (or edge) and i use an iamge in my head as to where the other peice is (or its relative location so its easy to find)

 

[XXGeneration]

Is it possible for anyone to give tips on achieving sub 15?
I finally am averaging 17.xx with the occasional 16.xx Ao5.

 

[RyanReese09]

Is it possible for anyone to give tips on achieving sub 15?
I finally am averaging 17.xx with the occasional 16.xx Ao5.

give us ur splits or a video .cant say what u need work on.

 

[XXGeneration]

My sub 15 solves have a split of about 8-9 seconds f2l, and the rest LL + recognition.
my average solve will be about 10-11 f2l and the rest LL + recognition.
I'm guessing f2l fluidity would be what i need to work on, but often my F2l can end at maybe 6 or 7 and i'll still get times of 13 or 14.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Well you really need to know your LL time to see what F2L you need to achieve. In all honesty though, until you get your F2L down around 5s, you know it can be improved. If you can sub2 all OLLs and PLLs, and recognize each case in sub1, then a 6s LL shouldn't be out of reach for you. If you can do 8-9s F2L you'll be teetering on the 15s mark for the whole solve.

 

[PoviIas]

That is my pretty new video.
How should I improve my spining speed?
Could a better cube help me?
Now I am using DIY type A. I do not really like it.
Thank you in advance.

 

[cyoubx]

Is this what you average, or a better-than-average solve? It's hard to judge by just one solve, but I would say turning speed could definitely be faster.
Also, I'm not that much faster than you (around 15 second average), but one thing I would do would be to have less pauses between F2L pairs. The cross could be a tad faster as well; it seemed choppy instead of smooth in the video.

 

[shuantsu]

I'm sub25. I got better on F2L by training a lot.

My f2l is ~15
My LL is ~10

So I think I should focus in Last Layer now. Learn the rest of OLL (I know 35%) and get better PLL algs (hate F and V). Will get a better cube and lubricant too. I have a AII, but the lubricant I use is making it worse.

Getting the f2l under 12 seconds and having sup-20 times is getting annoying

 

[sofeeuhh]

It's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.

To support this, I average consistently around 17 seconds, my PB average of 5 is 13.62, and my PB average of 12 is 15.64. I only know 2-look OLL and full PLL. The only reason why I can get good times is because my F2L is fairly advanced and I use look-ahead. (And no, I didn't say these things to brag, I'm just trying to say that learning full OLL isn't necessary at all to reach sub-20)

 

[RTh]

Reaching sub-20 with 2OLL is more than possible. The problem is that most cubers aren't fast enough when they are averaging over 20, so they start learning OLL since they believe that their algs are somehow slow (and I include myself). But while they learn full OLL they practice very much and get better and better.

On topic: Lookahead and practice are the only secrets. Practising the PLL algs to recognize them instantly, as well as the OLL cases, is very important.

I've noticed that most of my slow solves occur with bad F2L pairing/lookahead, or slow recognition. Normally bad cross isn't the problem. Just today I got a 15 sec. solve with a 4 sec cross.

 

[Mr Cubism]

It´s funny with planning the cross before the solve and a good looking ahead; it simply means that you don´t see what you´e doing the first two layers.

 

[Coke]

YAY I got sub 20!

And this helped me out a lot!

thanks!!!

 

[antoineccantin]

It's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.

To support this, I average consistently around 17 seconds, my PB average of 5 is 13.62, and my PB average of 12 is 15.64. I only know 2-look OLL and full PLL. The only reason why I can get good times is because my F2L is fairly advanced and I use look-ahead. (And no, I didn't say these things to brag, I'm just trying to say that learning full OLL isn't necessary at all to reach sub-20)

I average 15-17 and dont even know full PLL (it is just a few algs I dont know).

 

[blue7777100]

at what time would you suggest to start learning full OLL because im about 19 seconds consitantly shud it be time to start learning them?