How to be sub 20

[theace]

Working on it. Getting more consistent at sub 30 over time. Look ahead helps like mad!

 

[partylikeaturtle]

I'm using the 2LOLL and 2LPLL and I'm finding immediate identification difficult...

Although I have yet to learn F2L, my record is currently 26.72 seconds, using the full beginner's method...

 

[musicninja17]

I'm using the 2LOLL and 2LPLL and I'm finding immediate identification difficult...

Although I have yet to learn F2L, my record is currently 26.72 seconds, using the full beginner's method...

Yes, but full F2l will make you even faster.

 

[partylikeaturtle]

I'm planning on F2L, once I get more comfortable with the 4LLL, probably in a few days I'll check it out, and after that, I'll probably get the DIY...

 

[jackblk]

Thanks a lot.

 

[adfoote]

i do all that stuff and i know full OLL and PLL,but i avg like 23-24 so i guess its just practice. today my lookahead was godlike, so i got a 22.5 avg. which is damn good, even though my pb avg is 21.53 (ps, my pb solve is a 16.59- pll skip and extreme speed i guess.)

 

[Andrew Ricci]

I dunno. I guess some people are different. I average 28.5 seconds, with 3 second cross, 15 second F2L, and 10.5 second LL. I use full Pll and 2Look Oll. I just have a slow LL.

 

[cyoubx]

I use 3LLL as well, and I've cut down my last layer to around 6-7 seconds.
Try to get your PLL algs to 3 seconds

 

[dillonbladez]

Suggestion:
Go to http://lightake.com and buy a set of maru core+hardware, a C4Y core (just in case), and a Type C
Use that for a week. This will almost definately improve your accuracy unless
a) You already use a Type C, or any other cube with low corner cutting
b) You're Yu Nakajima

For most people, using their F-IIs, they have low accuracy, causing lockups and the like. I avg'd 22-23, then used my Type C (which is awesome btw), Switched back to F-II, and BAM sub-20... except for comp.. lol

 

[Lexity]

I'm aiming for sub-30 by the end of this year, thanks so much for this guide! Current times are:

Cross - 5 seconds
F2L - 30 seconds
OLL - 10 seconds (2 look)
PLL - 5 seconds (1 look)

Yeah I realise it takes me like 7.5 seconds per F2L pair, I go too quickly and guess where pieces are too much, eg. back left edge showing blue to the left and white/blue/orange corner front left, and trying to slot it without checking if its the right edge.

Also I really really don't like using my N perms but haven't managed to find any better ones yet. I use (R' U L' U2 R U' L) twice and its mirror for the left.

 

[Fepp]

I avg like 40. I really gotta work on my cross though, lol. Sometimes it takes like 6-7 secs :fp Good tips here! But I still can't get how to be able to do all four cross edges "on the same time"

 

[dillonbladez]

I avg like 40. I really gotta work on my cross though, lol. Sometimes it takes like 6-7 secs :fp Good tips here! But I still can't get how to be able to do all four cross edges "on the same time"

Lemme explain
You can't do all cross edges at the exact same time, this is true (unless it's like a M2). What they mean (i assume) is that you need to put your edges in, but in a way that converts "bad edges" to good ones. BadMephisto has a video on that. http://www.youtube.com/badmephisto#p/u/4/hY_FbpdNRCQ
or

 

[cuberkid10]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

 

[dillonbladez]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

More like
PRACTICE YOUR F2L EXCLUSIVELY
meaning devoting one of your cubes to be a "F2L training cube" (No LL stickers.)

 

[Andrew Ricci]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

More like
PRACTICE YOUR F2L EXCLUSIVELY
meaning devoting one of your cubes to be a "F2L training cube" (No LL stickers.)

Not necessarily, no. Just from LOTS of solving the cube, not specifically f2l, I do my F2l in about 12 seconds. My LL is the thing that needs work.

 

[choza244]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

so u sometimes do the sun alg 2 or 3 times to get the oll done?? i really want to know because i know all pll and half oll and still get 25s jeje

 

[uberCuber]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

so u sometimes do the sun alg 2 or 3 times to get the oll done?? i really want to know because i know all pll and half oll and still get 25s jeje

it can always be done with 2

 

[cyoubx]

How To Be Sub-20:

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!
I only know 17 PLL's, and I dont even know all of 2 look OLL, and Im sub-20. Practice...

so u sometimes do the sun alg 2 or 3 times to get the oll done?? i really want to know because i know all pll and half oll and still get 25s jeje

it can always be done with 2

Exactly: 2 sunes = 2 seconds. OLL probably takes around 3 seconds. PLL takes, say 3 seconds. That leaves 13 seconds for cross+F2L for a 19 second solve. Very doable.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Don't forget about a second for PLL recognition. Not everybody can PLL in 3 seconds (that takes a fair amount of practice.

cyoubx: Do a breakdown solve of at least F2L/OLL/PLL and you tell me what your times are I can do all PLLs sub3 when practicing (took a bit of time though, I just need to turn PLL slow and I can 2.5 or better all PLLs), but when in an actual solve, do to AUF (before and/or after PLL) my PLL is commonly 4.2ish. My OLL is almost always sub3 though, so that makes up for it usually.

 

[cyoubx]

Don't forget about a second for PLL recognition. Not everybody can PLL in 3 seconds (that takes a fair amount of practice.

cyoubx: Do a breakdown solve of at least F2L/OLL/PLL and you tell me what your times are I can do all PLLs sub3 when practicing (took a bit of time though, I just need to turn PLL slow and I can 2.5 or better all PLLs), but when in an actual solve, do to AUF (before and/or after PLL) my PLL is commonly 4.2ish. My OLL is almost always sub3 though, so that makes up for it usually.

Oops, I forgot recognition...teehee. Either way, my point was mainly that it was doable, not so much plebeian. I'm right around 20-21, getting killed by the cross.

Cross+F2L = 15 :fp (Cross up to 4 seconds, and F2l usually sub 12.)
OLL (I know 38 cases, and 2LOLL for the others) = 2-3 (this is what I'm best at)
PLL (all) < 3 except for N's which are about 3.5

Just last week, I was averaging around 23, but I've dropped two seconds since then. F2L was my main weakness, so I'm tuning that, and cross, up for sub 20, then full OLL!!! haha