The Current State of World Records

[Godmil]

I've only been following cubing for a few weeks now, but I'm constantly amazed by how often world records seem to be getting broken, and as I look back I'm seeing tons were set in the last year.

So here's my question. What is the general state of all these records? Are there lots that people are expecting to be beaten very soon (just the right cuber hasn't had a chance), or are there some records that have been long standing and generally people think are unbeatable... or are there some new techniques that people are working on that in the coming months could demolish some records?
I read someone say that they don't expect anyone to be able to beat Haiyan at 3x3 BLD, are there other records that have one person who's head and shoulders above his competitors?

I think a voice of experience about what we should expect of the coming years would be really fascinating.
Thanks.

 

[Faz]

Yumu Tabuchi is dominating OH, but there are many people who have potential to beat his WR, but they just fail in competitions

 

[xXzaKerXx]

...other records that have one person who's head and shoulders above his competitors?

I noticed that Square-1 records seem to be broken and reclaimed frequently, and each time it's faster by just a few miliseconds.

 

[Dene]

Pretty much, people are constantly getting better, and breakthroughs are still being made throughout all the events. A lot depends on when people can make competitions, and them performing on the day.

Cubing is still young, a lot of progress will be made before records start to "settle". But still, look at swimming or running where WRs are beaten on a semi-regular basis. Progress will always be made.

 

[RCTACameron]

Since the 5x5 WR was just smashed by 4:17, I think that one has a long way to go. Ville Seppänen could just keep breaking this WR again and again.

Also, Faz could probably break the 3x3 avg WR again and again...

Although most WRs can still be broken, the WCA may eventually introduce more events to make it more open and exciting.

 

[Tykwondo35]

sooner or later there is going to be a cuber to break th 3x3x3 wr. Or at least come close in my opinion

 

[XXGeneration]

Matsado Onobe, if he ever goes to a competition would probably dominate, provided that he doesn't choke.

 

[Mr Cubism]

sooner or later there is going to be a cuber to break th 3x3x3 wr. Or at least come close in my opinion

I suppose you mean the single 3x3x3
It has survived more than 2 years now and I think someone soon will get a single sub-7. Also I think the average of 4x4, 5x5 and 3x3 OH are doomed this year.

The averages of 3x3 and megaminx (and single megaminx too!) will take a long time to beat (my opinion) for anybody but the WR holders themselves (and of cause 3x3 BLD).


/ Nostracubus

 

[Carrot]

The averages of 3x3 and megaminx (and single megaminx too!) will take a long time to beat (my opinion) for anybody but the WR holders themselves (and of cause 3x3 BLD).


/ Nostracubus

*cough*Masato Onobe*cough*

 

[RyanO]

...other records that have one person who's head and shoulders above his competitors?

I noticed that Square-1 records seem to be broken and reclaimed frequently, and each time it's faster by just a few miliseconds.

Well, the square 1 record was just broken again, but this time it was by almost a whole second. It now belongs to Piotr Padlewski at 9.93 seconds.

 

[blade740]

...other records that have one person who's head and shoulders above his competitors?

I noticed that Square-1 records seem to be broken and reclaimed frequently, and each time it's faster by just a few miliseconds.

I never expected the square-1 single record to stand. There are several solvers capable of sub-10 singles, it's just a matter of getting a decent scramble in competition and not choking. I'm actually surprised that the record has been sup-10 for so long.

 

[SittinonSukhaya]

Yumu Tabuchi is dominating OH, but there are many people who have potential to beat his WR, but they just fail in competitions

I don't think he will stop at 16.11 .......................... My guess is that he will broke the WR with 15 ish avg at the Asian Championship (which I can't be there :fp) I don't think there are many people who have potential to beat his WR, He did really stand out among the OH cuber :rolleyes:

 

[cmhardw]

...other records that have one person who's head and shoulders above his competitors?

I noticed that Square-1 records seem to be broken and reclaimed frequently, and each time it's faster by just a few miliseconds.

The Stackmat is incapable of measuring milliseconds on the display.

 

[Joker]

Yea, there was a thread while ago of people tired of ol' 7.08 3x3 single WR, now people believe a good cuber with a good solve (a good lucky solve will help also) would be able to beat the 7.08 world record.

 

[amostay2004]

There are already several non-lucky official solves that would've easily been WR if it had a skip. So yea it's gonna be broken some time soon I believe.

 

[Kickflip1993]

The averages of 3x3 and megaminx (and single megaminx too!) will take a long time to beat

Well, wait for EC or Hungarian Open...
I hope Balint can set a new WR there, at least for the avg.

 

[Johan444]

There are already several non-lucky official solves that would've easily been WR if it had a skip. So yea it's gonna be broken some time soon I believe.

Just need 72 more of those.

 

[BigSams]

Anyone think ZB or ZZ will be mastered by someone in such a way that the ZBLL/ZBF2L cases can be recognized or EOLine can be completed so fast that Fridrich becomes inferior?

 

[Escher]

Anyone think ZB or ZZ will be mastered by someone in such a way that the ZBLL/ZBF2L cases can be recognized or EOLine can be completed so fast that Fridrich becomes inferior?

Hmm, possibly.
I would imagine if somebody with enough raw talent and already had a good understanding of cubing had the time and energy to dedicate a year of extremely hard practice it would be conceivable they would end up as fast or perhaps even slightly faster than the current fastest Fridrich solvers.

I can imagine using ZZ with opp neutrality on the colour of the D face and complete neutrality with the RLFB centres would be powerful enough to remove a lot of bad cases yet be just easy enough to implement. It would need a hell of a lot of practice to use in <15s and be effective, but it could be possible.

You could also setup a system for predicting or planning the first part of the f2l, perhaps placing the DL edge, then learning a Vallance-style system to make the block-building more mechanical and case based.

Something like ZBLL would be an added bonus, but to be honest just using OCLL/PLL, and learning to predict CO with the most common Fridrich style insertions would be fast *enough* and require a lot less effort...

EDIT: Oops, quite off-topic...

 

[freshcuber]

Pretty much, people are constantly getting better, and breakthroughs are still being made throughout all the events. A lot depends on when people can make competitions, and them performing on the day.

Cubing is still young, a lot of progress will be made before records start to "settle". But still, look at swimming or running where WRs are beaten on a semi-regular basis. Progress will always be made.

As far as swimming records being broken semi-regularly I have to tell you that you are wrong. In today's world a world record that stands for five years is amazing just due to advances in technology and methods. As far as swimming goes records have only been shattered again and again in the past few years due to the Speedo LZR. It's a suit that makes you faster. It has nothing to do with the swimmer. That suit will always make your times drop. It'd be like having a cube that did all R and R' turns on it's own. In the '08 Olympics almost every record was beaten by full seconds due to the technological advances that had happened in suit manufacturing. The same thing happened at the '09 Worlds. Now the suit has been banned from all competition and not a single world record has been touched this year. I've seen the effects a LZR has on a swimmers time for myself because I swim with a kid who's in the top ten in the country for some events. I can't speak for running but you should expect swimming world records to stand for a while now unless another Michael Phelps comes along since he is the greatest athlete ever. I know that was totally off topic but I couldn't let that one slide. Sorry