Help with easy PLLs and OLLs

[qqwref]

PS: I was a little sad to see that the wiki OLLPLL page is now in favor of quantity rather than quality

I believe this is the *point* of the wiki OLL and PLL pages. Individual people can always give a list of the algs they use but the wiki is a good place to put all the algs for anyone who might want to try others.

 

[MichaelErskine]

PS: I was a little sad to see that the wiki OLLPLL page is now in favor of quantity rather than quality

I believe this is the *point* of the wiki OLL and PLL pages. Individual people can always give a list of the algs they use but the wiki is a good place to put all the algs for anyone who might want to try others.

The wiki is "The Right Place" for algs -- I'd go further than what we have right now in the wiki to include who uses which algs and why. Why not have quantity and quality?

 

[Rook]

I really like this F Perm:

(R' U' F') T Perm (F U R)

The last F cancels out with the F' at the end of the T, turning it into:

(R' U' F') (R U R' U') R' F R2 U' R' U' (R U R' U R)

(Compliments to Lucas Garron who posted it here.)

 

[gavnasty]

Wow, these OLLs look pretty simple to learn. I'll probably be using the site to learn the rest of the OLLs, Thanks.

Anyway, I just figured out one for 53.

F' (L' U' L U) F2 (U R U' R') F'

I hope i did that notation right.

 

[bluecloe45]

I LOVE YOU BADMEPHISTO!

aweosme

 

[bluecloe45]

Wow, these OLLs look pretty simple to learn. I'll probably be using the site to learn the rest of the OLLs, Thanks.

Anyway, I just figured out one for 53.

F' (L' U' L U) F2 (U R U' R') F'

I hope i did that notation right.

sweet

 

[bwatkins]

for the F perm i use (R' U' F') the the T perm you have listed except it ends in U R instead of F'. Great for memorization and quite easy to execute as well as the T-perm is a quick one!

EDIT: I used your tutorial and those exact pictures / algs to learn my PLLs and that one was my least favorite on your list.

 

[foxfan352]

The oll headlights case I got from lance the blue knight

headlights to the left
(RUR'U')(RU'R'U2)*2(RUR'U'

 

[choza244]

I really like this F Perm:

(R' U' F') T Perm (F U R)

The last F cancels out with the F' at the end of the T, turning it into:

(R' U' F') (R U R' U') R' F R2 U' R' U' (R U R' U R)

(Compliments to Lucas Garron who posted it here.)

really nice alg for the F perm

 

[DavidWoner]

For the V and F perms I've always found it much more helpful to view the "d" as "U y" because that's where it falls naturally to regrip... Just a thought...

says you >_>

 

[lilkdub503]

I was a little sad to see that the wiki OLLPLL page is now in favor of quantity rather than quality

How true indeed.

In this case, I think quality is determined almost solely through quantity. If I can scan through the algorithms, find one I like, then that was better than going to your page, Bob Burton's page, Lars' page, Macky's, and Dan's. It's quicker, which speeds up the quality of the learning curve.

 

[rubiknewbie]

For Jb perm, I use R U2’ R’ U’ R U2’ L’ U R’ U’ L.

 

[badmephisto]

I was a little sad to see that the wiki OLLPLL page is now in favor of quantity rather than quality

How true indeed.

In this case, I think quality is determined almost solely through quantity. If I can scan through the algorithms, find one I like, then that was better than going to your page, Bob Burton's page, Lars' page, Macky's, and Dan's. It's quicker, which speeds up the quality of the learning curve.

Except you're wrong because if you actually did go on all those websites, you would end up with a set of 1 to 3 algs per case because we all share A LOT of algorithms (because those algorithms are good), and THOSE are the ones that should be listed there.
Instead on the wiki you are presented with a choice of 20, most of them completely worthless!!!

Here, example of something listed for Uperm:
R U R' U' L' U' L U2 R U' R' U' L' U L
Would you SERIOUSLY consider using that as your U-perm? Is that what you are telling me? "Speeds up learning curve", ROFL


Anyway, I'm done, thanks everyone for contributions, I put up the augmented OLLs and PLLs on my website. I mostly changed the last few PLLs. OLLs went largely unmodified. It will become clear in a few days why I went through this now. (I didn't just randomly think of it! )

 

[riffz]

Here, example of something listed for Uperm:
R U R' U' L' U' L U2 R U' R' U' L' U L
Would you SERIOUSLY consider using that as your U-perm? Is that what you are telling me? "Speeds up learning curve", ROFL

Just because the algs are most likely not a top choice for speedsolving doesn't mean we should discard them. There's often a lot of talk in the theory section about creating your own algorithms and using different generators, so to some that alg may just be interesting.

We also have FMC, feet solving, OH and blindfolded, so what you can execute fastest with 2 hands is not necessarily the best alg in these cases. For BLD you also have to consider that, quite often, you will need to do a setup move every time you use an alg unless you pick one that starts from the position you require.

 

[Haru]

Case #30 (OLL 52)
y' (F R U R' U F') y' U' R U' R'
Case #28 (OLL 38)
y' (F R U R2 U' F') y U r U r'

These can be understood in the same way of case #32 (OLL 18).
(do modified case #1 (OLL 45) then fix the F2L)


Case #37 (OLL 42)
S' (F R U R' U' F') d M'

This is easy to remember.

 

[MichaelErskine]

Except you're wrong because if you actually did go on all those websites, you would end up with a set of 1 to 3 algs per case because we all share A LOT of algorithms (because those algorithms are good), and THOSE are the ones that should be listed there.
Instead on the wiki you are presented with a choice of 20, most of them completely worthless!!!

Please feel free to add detail to the wiki: perhaps saying why you like/dislike particular algorithms. This request isn't particularly aimed at yourself, badmephisto, rather at everybody here to make the wiki into a more useful resource.

 

[Edward]

Maybe for the wiki, the most commonly used/fastest algs could be in bold?

 

[Zarlor]

Badmephisto, I see you have the new algs on your website, but could you please update your PDFs with the new algs too? (The new E-perm for instance).

Much thanks!

 

[RyanReese09]

omg no no. put up a page with ur old algoritrhms. PLEASE.

 

[Tyjet66]

I agree Litz, I'll be changing the E perm to that.

Damn, and I had just learned your E perm yesterday. :fp