Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[puzzlemaster]

[...] you're [cubeordie] only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

Well, he could still use Petrus

Why? I feel as if he needs to simplify it more for himself so that he can use it...hence his method.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

No, I'm not turning this into a religous debate. I'm complaining about your justification.

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Maybe if you thought for yourself, you'd change your mind, maybe you wouldn't. But at least then you'd have a reason instead of it being simply because you are brainwashed.

humans have their information from different sources. you saying me wrong and me being brainwashed could easily be applied to you. you just were taught differently. i believe im right and so do you. we'll see who's right later.

 

[Bryan]

I don't think people are born gay.

You clearly don't know **** about sexuality. It has been scientifically proven that there is a genetic component to sexuality and there is such a thing as 'brain gender', not limited to the presence or not of a Y chromosome.

OK, you two fight now.

Nobody in the bible was gay because the concept of being exclusively homosexual or 'straight' DIDN'T EXIST.

I'm pretty sure the guys in Genesis 19:5 are gay.

 

[miniGOINGS]

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Hey Kirjava, this is just a question I want you're opinion on,

Would it be justifiable for him to believe that homosexuality is wrong if he did follow the rest of so called "magic book"?

I'm just looking for your point of view.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

And to think I thought you were actually a somewhat intelligent individual.. At this point, you've proved this: that you are a careful driver at the age of 13, that you know everything about the reform while you clearly dont, that you are your own version of a christian because you're that good, and that being gay is wrong because men liking men is a problem. Do us all a favor...come up with some intelligent responses because at this point you're only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

and you know everything about the bill so you can say i know nothing? and as for destroying my image... does it look like i care? ive been banned for saying there is something wrong with being gay. ban me again. my oppinion won't change.

edit: and im not a retard...im going to mathcoutns state contest saturday

Actually, I didnt have to say anything about your knowledge of the bill...you showed us how little you know by yourself . And yea...banning doesn't fix people i suppose...do you know the definition of insanity?

Congrats...I did that too...in middle school...that doesn't really prove anything of your intelligence..just an fyi...a team will take anyone as long as they fill their quota.

i don't get that last sentence. and i think i know better than you that this bill is insane. its been passed with shady deals and buying. and it had a disaproval rating of about 60%. why? gee, that's a question!

 

[Daniel Wu]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

No, I'm not turning this into a religous debate. I'm complaining about your justification.

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Maybe if you thought for yourself, you'd change your mind, maybe you wouldn't. But at least then you'd have a reason instead of it being simply because you are brainwashed.

One could say that homosexuality is contrary to the laws of nature.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

hehe

 

[puzzlemaster]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

And to think I thought you were actually a somewhat intelligent individual.. At this point, you've proved this: that you are a careful driver at the age of 13, that you know everything about the reform while you clearly dont, that you are your own version of a christian because you're that good, and that being gay is wrong because men liking men is a problem. Do us all a favor...come up with some intelligent responses because at this point you're only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

and you know everything about the bill so you can say i know nothing? and as for destroying my image... does it look like i care? ive been banned for saying there is something wrong with being gay. ban me again. my oppinion won't change.

edit: and im not a retard...im going to mathcoutns state contest saturday

Actually, I didnt have to say anything about your knowledge of the bill...you showed us how little you know by yourself . And yea...banning doesn't fix people i suppose...do you know the definition of insanity?

Congrats...I did that too...in middle school...that doesn't really prove anything of your intelligence..just an fyi...a team will take anyone as long as they fill their quota.

i don't get that last sentence. and i think i know better than you that this bill is insane. its been passed with shady deals and buying. and it had a disaproval rating of about 60%. why? gee, that's a question!

You can't understand that and you feel like you understand the bill? Just another thing...You answered your own question in your post...Why was it passed? because of "shady deals and buying." Not that that's what I believe...however since you're convinced of it I might as well feed you your own crap.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

wow...i thought speedcubers were smart. guess im wrong again and again.

yeah, im and ******* and i should die. bash on me i rly don't care.

 

[puzzlemaster]

wow...i thought speedcubers were smart. guess im wrong again and again.

yeah, im and ******* and i should die. bash on me i rly don't care.

Aren't you a speedcuber? :rolleyes:

 

[guitardude7241]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

average joes? prophets aren't average joes.

 

[Edmund]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

No, I'm not turning this into a religous debate. I'm complaining about your justification.

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Maybe if you thought for yourself, you'd change your mind, maybe you wouldn't. But at least then you'd have a reason instead of it being simply because you are brainwashed.

What it's coming down to know is our difference in religious beliefs. And you say you don't wanna argue about religion and fine, that's the end of it. I don't plan on changing my religious beliefs unless another religion has a huge revelation. But I don't think I'll ever turn to denying God because what if there is an afterlife? Isn't it nice to have a safety? If you wanna practical reason to believe in God there it is.
I doubt I'm changing your mind here so this is the end of this argument, between me and you, sound good?

average joes? prophets aren't average joes.

I was saying they weren't average joes.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

oh, so now your trying to be a smartass?

edit: @puzzlemasters last post

 

[Kirjava]

humans have their information from different sources. you saying me wrong and me being brainwashed could easily be applied to you. you just were taught differently. i believe im right and so do you. we'll see who's right later.

I was raised Catholic. Since I changed my mind on those issues ingrained by the church by myself, I would not call that brainwashing. More like... thinking.

I don't think people are born gay.

You clearly don't know **** about sexuality. It has been scientifically proven that there is a genetic component to sexuality and there is such a thing as 'brain gender', not limited to the presence or not of a Y chromosome.

OK, you two fight now.

OMG ROWAN HOW DARE U USE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AGAINST MY OPINION.

But seriously, I find this hard to believe. I view sexuality as a man made concept.

Hey Kirjava, this is just a question I want you're opinion on,

Would it be justifiable for him to believe that homosexuality is wrong if he did follow the rest of so called "magic book"?

I'm just looking for your point of view.

No, I was just pointing out inconsistancies in his beliefs.

One could say that homosexuality is contrary to the laws of nature.

You could say that, but you'd be wrong.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

just leave this alone. let's agree to disagree

 

[Escher]

i think this is your best post so far. i agree with some things and disagree with others...

1-it has also been "scientificlly proven" before that the earth is flat. science changes. its not precise

The Greeks proved that the earth was spherical hundreds of years before Christ. The 'flat earth' theory is also a modern conception, that appeared in the last 200 years or so. That doesn't prove me wrong or even show that I could be wrong.

Science does indeed change, but for now it's completely logical to believe what scientists say rather than ignoring it for the sake of some ridiculous prejudice.

2-no its not

Erm, yes it is.
It has been shown that a vast majority of homosexual (or bi-sexual) people are genetically hard-wired that way. Do you think they can help that? And that they deserve your ridiculous prejudice?

3-no, not at school. i have done jobs. not paying ones...just for people here and there. i don't mind. its hard work, but its a job. and then, you completely ignore intellectual (nerdy for you) jobs.

Hmm, so what jobs have you actually done then?

I don't ignore them. They are just as difficult or more so, but in a different sense. It's just that they are irrelevant in the context of poverty.

I'm a little baffled as to why you think that I need 'intellectual' dumbed down to 'nerdy'.

4-you definitely have a point. its not your fault if you don't know how to get a job. that is something that should be worked on

Exactly! That's my whole point!

If you don't know how to get a job, you can't pay for health insurance. Is that your fault?

 

[puzzlemaster]

oh, so now your trying to be a smartass?

edit: @puzzlemasters last post

Succeeding and trying are 2 different things...besides...you called yourself stupid...what do you want me to say to that? :rolleyes:

 

[endless_akatsuki]

oh, so now your trying to be a smartass?

edit: @puzzlemasters last post

are you ever gonna stop being a dumbass?

okay, okay...I really don't mean to insult you or anything, but grow up, and start thinking more. Please.




I wonder what other random topics this thread will churn out (Religion and Homophobia...what next?)

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

1-:fp

2-yes it is

3-stuff like working a bit in lawn maintenance here and there.

4-there aren't a lot of people that can't get a job

 

[Kirjava]

No, I'm not turning this into a religous debate. I'm complaining about your justification.

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Maybe if you thought for yourself, you'd change your mind, maybe you wouldn't. But at least then you'd have a reason instead of it being simply because you are brainwashed.

What it's coming down to know is our difference in religious beliefs. And you say you don't wanna argue about religion and fine, that's the end of it. I don't plan on changing my religious beliefs unless another religion has a huge revelation. But I don't think I'll ever turn to denying God because what if there is an afterlife? Isn't it nice to have a safety?

I'd rather have truth than comfort, sadly.

Just... please stop blindly believing things when you don't know why you're believing in them. You're hurting people.