Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[miniGOINGS]

I'll never get cancer. I just know it! Why in the world should I be forced to pay for OTHER people with cancer.

you shouldn't.

Because if they have cancer, it must be their fault!

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

 

[Daniel Wu]

One real problem with the health bill is that you must have health insurance or the government fines you. That's just stupid. You're being forced to get health insurance.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

1.5-i didn't state im a careful driver. i said i would drive carefully

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

You didn't say you would drive carefully. You said you are careful.

3-christian=follower of christ. and "love your neighbour as myself?" so why not just give up all of your belongings and die a hobbo? there are limits. and love doesn't come from FORCING someone to do something. its the THOUGHT that coutns. FORCING someone to pay isn't love. if you would like to pay for someone's bill, great. but not FORCE someone to pay.

Dying as a begging hobo won't help anybody... so why would that have anything to do with loving others like yourself.

So, if you think it's the thought that counts, you obviously pay no thought or heed to the people struggling, do you? Still, you're not seeming much like a Christian.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

I'll never get cancer. I just know it! Why in the world should I be forced to pay for OTHER people with cancer.

you shouldn't.

Because if they have cancer, it must be their fault!

you missed the point: why be FORCED to pay for them? if you have the heart, give a donation. but if you are struggling to feed your family..why force you to pay for them?

 

[Kirjava]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

Humour me. Name something wrong with being gay.

 

[Edmund]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

I'm not a homophobe. I have a couple gay friends but I have problems also. I'd love it if they would go to a rehab for something like this but I've got problems I've gotta work on too. I'm saying EVERYONE has different problems, and yes I believe this is a problem. People are born with things that they should try to overcome. Yes, I believe are born gay but I also believe people are born with an eye for lust or greed. These are all things we have to overcome.

 

[Muesli]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

Humour me. Name something wrong with being gay.

Kir

 

[miniGOINGS]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

 

[Muesli]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

I'm not a homophobe. I have a couple gay friends but I have problems also. I'd love it if they would go to a rehab for something like this but I've got problems I've gotta work on too. I'm saying EVERYONE has different problems, and yes I believe this is a problem. People are born with things that they should try to overcome. Yes, I believe are born gay but I also believe people are born with an eye for lust or greed. These are all things we have to overcome.

Being Gay is a problem?

I think being Christian is a problem, and it's a problem that you must overcome. <<<-See how weird that sounds?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

@cubeordie

I was on a call a couple of days after a storm. This guy was driving and a tree fell on his car. This guy happened to have been unbelievably lucky, and walked away with relatively minor injuries. Had his car been about two feet further in the road, he would have been really screwed, and anything less than critical condition would have been a miracle.
Say that this guy didn't have the money to cover the treatment he needed. Are we supposed to deny him care?

 

[Kirjava]

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

I'm not a homophobe. I have a couple gay friends but I have problems also. I'd love it if they would go to a rehab for something like this but I've got problems I've gotta work on too. I'm saying EVERYONE has different problems, and yes I believe this is a problem. People are born with things that they should try to overcome. Yes, I believe are born gay but I also believe people are born with an eye for lust or greed. These are all things we have to overcome.

I don't think people are born gay. I also don't think it's a problem. Why do you think it's a problem?

 

[Deleted member 2864]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

I'm not a homophobe. I have a couple gay friends but I have problems also. I'd love it if they would go to a rehab for something like this but I've got problems I've gotta work on too. I'm saying EVERYONE has different problems, and yes I believe this is a problem. People are born with things that they should try to overcome. Yes, I believe are born gay but I also believe people are born with an eye for lust or greed. These are all things we have to overcome.

Being Gay is a problem?

I think being Christian is a problem, and it's a problem that you must overcome. <<<-See how weird that sounds?

Not weird at all. Ethan thinks gays are people that have been given a challenge from Christ. I don't think it seems weird to him.

@cubeordie if you see this: Read my new post and answer it please. I want a real answer.

 

[Edmund]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

I'm not a homophobe. I have a couple gay friends but I have problems also. I'd love it if they would go to a rehab for something like this but I've got problems I've gotta work on too. I'm saying EVERYONE has different problems, and yes I believe this is a problem. People are born with things that they should try to overcome. Yes, I believe are born gay but I also believe people are born with an eye for lust or greed. These are all things we have to overcome.

Being Gay is a problem?

I think being Christian is a problem, and it's a problem that you must overcome. <<<-See how weird that sounds?

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

Edit: This is becoming far too off-topic and CuBeOrDiE, I agree with your general stance but could you make worse points? I don't think so.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

Humour me. Name something wrong with being gay.

liking men oooo what den?

 

[biohead]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

 

[miniGOINGS]

liking men oooo what den?

Best post of the thread. By far.

 

[Kirjava]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

 

[Deleted member 2864]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

When did Ethan say it was right to watch girls making out. I didn't catch him saying that. Linkie to the post?

And I'd try to drive this back on topic, but I don't think anybody active on this thread now is interested on shifting away from the current discussion. You can blame Cubeordie if you wish to pinpoint a reason to the topic switch.