Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[Kirjava]

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progress?!?!?! more like going over to the darkside

Humour me. Name something wrong with being gay.

liking men oooo what den?

And what's wrong with that?

 

[Muesli]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

Kir

 

[Escher]

oh no. look at that last statement...god didn't make people gay. why can't gay people have babies? why didn't a single person in the bible be gay? hm??

You clearly don't know **** about sexuality. It has been scientifically proven that there is a genetic component to sexuality and there is such a thing as 'brain gender', not limited to the presence or not of a Y chromosome.

Nobody in the bible was gay because the concept of being exclusively homosexual or 'straight' DIDN'T EXIST. It is a modern, constructed concept.

only with all of this freedom and retarded concepts in everyone's head do they think gay is normal. it shouldn't be promoted.

Yes it is normal.

work? yes, i have worked. and i know what its like

What? At school? That isn't hard work, trust me.
Proper jobs are not available to you at your age, you don't know what it's like.

and what about poor people? get a job! the reason they don't want to is government provides them with stuff without work! they're poor because they're lazy!

Once again you prove you know nothing about getting jobs. People don't just employ anybody, and if you have no idea how to conduct yourself in an interview, or you have no qualifications or the ability to adapt and learn skills in the workplace then you simply don't get jobs. Is that their fault?

of couse, they're are people who are poor and have conditions preventing them from working, but very few...only like 1%...

Thanks for conceding somewhat. However, you're demonstrably wrong about your figure: here you can see a few figures about disability and employment in the US (from 07). 26% of those with a severe disability are below the poverty line, and that represents 12% of the total population.

And of course it doesn't stop at medical disability, like I said above, some people just have never been taught to get a job. How the hell is that any fault of theirs?

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

define logic and reason. personally, it makes sence that there is an afterlife. energy has to go SOMEWHERE.... and your spirit is energy right?

 

[Cyrus C.]

I don't really have an opinion, but, I do know in India they have healthcare & everyone goes to private hospitals because they are usually better. That will probably happen here (history repeats itself).

 

[biohead]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

When did Ethan say it was right to watch girls making out. I didn't catch him saying that. Linkie to the post?

And I'd try to drive this back on topic, but I don't think anybody active on this thread now is interested on shifting away from the current discussion. You can blame Cubeordie if you wish to pinpoint a reason to the topic switch.

I wasn't quoting anyone... it was just to all that are saying that being gay is wrong.

 

[Muesli]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

define logic and reason. personally, it makes sence that there is an afterlife. energy has to go SOMEWHERE.... and your spirit is energy right?

No.

 

[Kirjava]

define logic and reason. personally, it makes sence that there is an afterlife. energy has to go SOMEWHERE.... and your spirit is energy right?

If you're not going to answer my questions, why should I answer your crazy ramblings?

 

[puzzlemaster]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

And to think I thought you were actually a somewhat intelligent individual.. At this point, you've proved this: that you are a careful driver at the age of 13, that you know everything about the reform while you clearly dont, that you are your own version of a christian because you're that good, and that being gay is wrong because men liking men is a problem. Do us all a favor...come up with some intelligent responses because at this point you're only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

oh no. look at that last statement...god didn't make people gay. why can't gay people have babies? why didn't a single person in the bible be gay? hm??

You clearly don't know **** about sexuality. It has been scientifically proven that there is a genetic component to sexuality and there is such a thing as 'brain gender', not limited to the presence or not of a Y chromosome.

Nobody in the bible was gay because the concept of being exclusively homosexual or 'straight' DIDN'T EXIST. It is a modern, constructed concept.

only with all of this freedom and retarded concepts in everyone's head do they think gay is normal. it shouldn't be promoted.

Yes it is normal.

work? yes, i have worked. and i know what its like

What? At school? That isn't hard work, trust me.
Proper jobs are not available to you at your age, you don't know what it's life.

and what about poor people? get a job! the reason they don't want to is government provides them with stuff without work! they're poor because they're lazy!

Once again you prove you know nothing about getting jobs. People don't just employ anybody, and if you have no idea how to conduct yourself in an interview, or you have no qualifications or the ability to adapt and learn skills in the workplace then you simply don't get jobs. Is that their fault?

of couse, they're are people who are poor and have conditions preventing them from working, but very few...only like 1%...

Thanks for conceding somewhat. However, you're demonstrably wrong about your figure: here you can see a few figures about disability and employment in the US (from 07). 26% of those with a severe disability are below the poverty line, and that represents 12% of the total population.

And of course it doesn't stop at medical disability, like I said above, some people just have never been taught to get a job. How the hell is that any fault of theirs?

i think this is your best post so far. i agree with some things and disagree with others...

1-it has also been "scientificlly proven" before that the earth is flat. science changes. its not precise

2-no its not

3-no, not at school. i have done jobs. not paying ones...just for people here and there. i don't mind. its hard work, but its a job. and then, you completely ignore intellectual (nerdy for you) jobs.

4-you definitely have a point. its not your fault if you don't know how to get a job. that is something that should be worked on

 

[Escher]

define logic and reason. personally, it makes sence that there is an afterlife. energy has to go SOMEWHERE.... and your spirit is energy right?

Ah-ha. I know not to make any posts in this thread aimed at you anymore.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

define logic and reason. personally, it makes sence that there is an afterlife. energy has to go SOMEWHERE.... and your spirit is energy right?

Umm... could you make better points? I'm sorry... but wow.

Once again: roflololololsence

 

[Edmund]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

And to think I thought you were actually a somewhat intelligent individual.. At this point, you've proved this: that you are a careful driver at the age of 13, that you know everything about the reform while you clearly dont, that you are your own version of a christian because you're that good, and that being gay is wrong because men liking men is a problem. Do us all a favor...come up with some intelligent responses because at this point you're only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

and you know everything about the bill so you can say i know nothing? and as for destroying my image... does it look like i care? ive been banned for saying there is something wrong with being gay. ban me again. my oppinion won't change.

edit: and im not a retard...im going to mathcoutns state contest saturday

 

[Daniel Wu]

4-you definitely have a point. its not your fault if you don't know how to get a job. that is something that should be worked on

But then there are also people who are just lazy and expect everything to be handed to them. I actually listened to someone seriously tell me that he should be payed to do nothing because he has the right to be lazy. That's just stupid and I imagine that a lot of people who don't have a job are people with this type of attitude.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

[...] you're [cubeordie] only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

Well, he could still use Petrus

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

yup. i said that before... and im now getting bashed for it

 

[Kirjava]

I don't understand why being gay is a problem, I'll be honest. But I don't understand why being lustful or envious is a sin. I couldn't begin to understand the trinity. But what do I know is that God tells us being gay is wrong, being envious is wrong, being lustful is wrong and to believe in the trinity. Maybe it sounds like I'm a blind follower but God wants us to have faith.

This is what happens when you get your morals from a crazy book instead of discovering them with logic and reason.

It may seem crazy to you but the reason it has so much appeal to so many people is because so much of it lines up so perfectly it's hard to believe some average Joes wrote it.

No, I'm not turning this into a religous debate. I'm complaining about your justification.

You say being gay is a problem. "The book told me to say that" isn't an explanation. The magic book also says a lot of other things you don't follow, you're just using it to justify your homophobia and not have to explain it.

Maybe if you thought for yourself, you'd change your mind, maybe you wouldn't. But at least then you'd have a reason instead of it being simply because you are brainwashed.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

[...] you're [cubeordie] only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

Well, he could still use Petrus

definately. but im not going to use petrus just to **** them all of

 

[puzzlemaster]

If it is so wrong being gay... why is it so right to watch 2 girls making out ??

And this has nothing to do with health care anymore...

1-i don't watch lesbians making out. maybe you do, but not me

2-indeed, it doesn't

And to think I thought you were actually a somewhat intelligent individual.. At this point, you've proved this: that you are a careful driver at the age of 13, that you know everything about the reform while you clearly dont, that you are your own version of a christian because you're that good, and that being gay is wrong because men liking men is a problem. Do us all a favor...come up with some intelligent responses because at this point you're only destroying your image more and more...not that there was much left at this point...

and you know everything about the bill so you can say i know nothing? and as for destroying my image... does it look like i care? ive been banned for saying there is something wrong with being gay. ban me again. my oppinion won't change.

edit: and im not a retard...im going to mathcoutns state contest saturday

Actually, I didnt have to say anything about your knowledge of the bill...you showed us how little you know by yourself . And yea...banning doesn't fix people i suppose...do you know the definition of insanity?

Congrats...I did that too...in middle school...that doesn't really prove anything of your intelligence..just an fyi...a team will take anyone as long as they fill their quota.