Memory Methods

[blizzardmb]

How long are the typical "routes"?
I was planning on making some and I have no idea how many points they should have. Can an experienced blindsolver please help me out?

Hey.
Well my routes have 4 points but usually i only really need 3.
Thats because i make 1 image out ouf 2. If you have single images, i think you sould have 8 points.

Greetings, Dennis

Only 8!? Shouldn't I have enough to at least solve all of the edges on a 3x3? Or am I just misunderstanding something?

 

[MichaelErskine]

Only 8!? Shouldn't I have enough to at least solve all of the edges on a 3x3? Or am I just misunderstanding something?

Some people memo multiple items per waypoint. I only have one route but it has about 60 waypoints. Since it is a route through a house I can start in different rooms of have different rooms for different solves or parts of solves. But my advice is not really worth much since I'm slow as hell and I can't yet do corners on a 3x3x3

 

[Micael]

How long are the typical "routes"?
I was planning on making some and I have no idea how many points they should have. Can an experienced blindsolver please help me out?

Hey.
Well my routes have 4 points but usually i only really need 3.
Thats because i make 1 image out ouf 2. If you have single images, i think you sould have 8 points.

Greetings, Dennis

Only 8!? Shouldn't I have enough to at least solve all of the edges on a 3x3? Or am I just misunderstanding something?

Just put 2 images per location and you cut down the amount you need. Also it is usually more "compress" to do so because some interaction between these images can makes them more like a single one (a so call "chunk").
As an example, I currently use PA (person-action) and put 2 PA per location so I need at most 4 location for edges (usually 3) and 3 for corners (usually 2). So my routes are 7 locations: 4 dedicated to edges and 3 to corners.

 

[ZamHalen]

I finally started to learn visual memorization but i have a problem.I've been memorizing the different taps in beats(I'm a musician so thats the way I found was easiest)but I can only memorize maybe half of the edges maybe 5 corners.So what should I do? Should I change from memorizing beats and rhythms?Or am I missing something about this method?

 

[cincyaviation]

does anyone have a good way to remember number letter combinations? of up to 12 numbers (1-12) and 6 letters

 

[peedu]

Hi!
I hope this is helping...

Using image per letter pair the combination BJ gets a certain censored meaning very often.

Do you know what I am thinking when I see BJ?

I think about James Bond, because a guy named BJ Worth did most of the skydiving stunts in 007 movies.

So...
JB is 007 and BJ is the stuntman. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0941654/

 

[Kabuthunk]

Ok, don't yell at me, because I'm very new to Rubik's Cube in general (not counting when I was 5 years old, playing with one not knowing with to do with it 25 years ago). But with Blind solving... for the official tournaments, should I make the blindingly safe assumption that you're not allowed to use a Blind-man's Rubiks cube (http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY---Rubiks-Cube---Blind-Mans-Cube---Metal-Rubi/).

That's one thing that's always bothered me, is whether someone who's actually blind could compete in one of the blind-solving competitions using such a cube.

Again, new to this, I'll learn the obvious over time.

 

[aronpm]

Ok, don't yell at me, because I'm very new to Rubik's Cube in general (not counting when I was 5 years old, playing with one not knowing with to do with it 25 years ago). But with Blind solving... for the official tournaments, should I make the blindingly safe assumption that you're not allowed to use a Blind-man's Rubiks cube (http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY---Rubiks-Cube---Blind-Mans-Cube---Metal-Rubi/).

That's one thing that's always bothered me, is whether someone who's actually blind could compete in one of the blind-solving competitions using such a cube.

Again, new to this, I'll learn the obvious over time.

I don't know if any blind people have entered in blindfold events. Generally, blind cubers would be allowed to use a cube where the stickers have different textures. Of course, they can't do that in blindfold solving! They need two cubes: the textured cube and a normal cube. They memorize on the textured cube, and solve on the normal cube. The judge will have to make sure that both cubes are scrambled the same, and that the person starts holding the normal cube correctly (otherwise they wouldn't be able to solve it).

Regulation 2s3: For competitors with visual disabilities, inspection and solving can be done on a puzzle with different textures or Braille objects. The solving phase must be done according to the Blindfolded Solving regulations. For the blindfolded events the solving phase must be done on a puzzle with regular stickers or tiles.

 

[qqwref]

In the blindfolded event you're not allowed to be able to tell pieces apart by feel, so blindman's cubes as well as textured cubes are not allowed. For blind competitors, the regulations for blindfold cubing allow using a blindman's/textured cube for memorization, but still require using a plain unmarked cube for the actual solving part.

 

[Kabuthunk]

Well, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks guys, that put to rest a curiosity that's been bugging me for a while

 

[MichaelErskine]

But with Blind solving... for the official tournaments, should I make the blindingly safe assumption...

The rules for official competitions can be found at the WCA website here: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/

If a blind competitor ever wants to enter an event then some of the basic rules would need to be modified. It would be interesting to say the least

 

[Mike Hughey]

But with Blind solving... for the official tournaments, should I make the blindingly safe assumption...

The rules for official competitions can be found at the WCA website here: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/

If a blind competitor ever wants to enter an event then some of the basic rules would need to be modified. It would be interesting to say the least

So you don't feel that the rules for blind competitors in the regulations would work as is? Why do they need to be modified?

 

[MichaelErskine]

But with Blind solving... for the official tournaments, should I make the blindingly safe assumption...

The rules for official competitions can be found at the WCA website here: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/

If a blind competitor ever wants to enter an event then some of the basic rules would need to be modified. It would be interesting to say the least

So you don't feel that the rules for blind competitors in the regulations would work as is? Why do they need to be modified?

Ah! Clause 2s3: -

2s3) For competitors with visual disabilities, inspection and solving can be done on a puzzle with different textures or Braille objects. The solving phase must be done according to the Blindfolded Solving regulations. For the blindfolded events the solving phase must be done on a puzzle with regular stickers or tiles.

I must admit I didn't read that at first. Sorry, I'm a foolish man

 

[Raffael]

Yesterday evening, there was a report on memory methods on German tv magazine 'Galileo'.
It will be available online here:
http://www.prosieben.de/tv/galileo/folgen/

 

[ribonzz]

Left up = L
Left down = L'
Right = R
Right down = R'
Head right = U
Head left = U'
Foot right = F
Foot left = F'

Put the apostrophe again for 2 times spin.

 

[tjtj_pr0]

what about Ville or Haiyan memory method? can they memory each case for edge or cornner?

 

[MichaelErskine]

what about Ville or Haiyan memory method? can they memory each case for edge or cornner?

Good point. Could you outline the methods for us? Even better, just update the wiki page.

 

[amostay2004]

I think Haiyan just uses letters (and numbers, probably).

IMO most memory methods can be super fast, the trick is to never play safe and just memo as fast as possible. Eventually you'll get there.

 

[tjtj_pr0]

Good point. Could you outline the methods for us? Even better, just update the wiki page.

ok, after saw the list of BH algorithms i know it's absolutely impossible

so, thanks for this website! it's very useful for me

 

[Mike Hughey]

Good point. Could you outline the methods for us? Even better, just update the wiki page.

ok, after saw the list of BH algorithms i know it's absolutely impossible

No, it's really not - it's surprisingly easy*! Learn them like you learn intuitive F2L - follow the pieces, and understand how they work. Then memorization becomes easy, because it's just a small number of classes of algorithms, mirrored, inverted, and rotated around the cube. Corners are much easier than edges, though.

*Note: I should point out the emphasis here is on "surprisingly". It's not actually easy - it's probably a little harder than learning intuitive F2L, but my point is that it seems like it should be impossible, but when you try it, you realize it's not much harder than learning intuitive F2L - just a little bit harder.