The DNF master

[TMOY]

I suck at DNFing If I counted correctly, only 88 DNFs in 3& competitions for me.
3^3 BLD is by far the greatest DNF provider for me (I'm getting faster at BLD but my accuracy still sucks).

 

[Rama]

Rubik's Cube: 6
Professor Cube: 2
Rubik's Cube OH: 4
Fewest Moves: 2
Pyraminx: 1
Magic: 1

Just 16 DNF's. \o/

 

[aronpm]

My DNF/attempt ratio is undefined.

 

[Jude]

Do I win the "Highest proportion of DNFs from anyone who's been actually trying and has attempted 15 or more BLD solves" award? 4/5ths, beat that! What's more, is the vast majority have been just either flipped edges or twisted corners, or parity off (including 4x4x4 bld!)

EDIT: Never mind, Francois kicks my ass at that event

 

[masterofthebass]

Do I win the "Highest proportion of DNFs from anyone who's been actually trying and has attempted 15 or more BLD solves" award? 4/5ths, beat that! What's more, is the vast majority have been just either flipped edges or twisted corners, or parity off (including 4x4x4 bld!)

Before Thankscubing, my success to DNF ratio was 1:11.


My DNFs:

3x3 - 8
4x4 - 6
5x5 - 2
BLD - 54
OH - 2
FMC - 2
Feet - 1
Sq-1 - 1
clock - 12
6x6 - 1
Magic - 22
Master magic - 3
4x4 BLD - 16
5x5 BLD - 3
multi - 3
multi-old - 3

Total: 139

In 24 comps. I'm going to try and find my total number of solves, but if not, o well.

 

[Stefan]

Wow Arnaud, you win.

Not quite:

[b]192[/b]/2472  Erik Akkersdijk
[b]168[/b]/1420  Olivér Perge
[b]149[/b]/2496  Arnaud van Galen
[b]136[/b]/1394  Dan Cohen
[b]133[/b]/1086  Adam Zamora
[b]112[/b]/1392  Ton Dennenbroek
[b]107[/b]/1047  Rowe Hessler
[b]105[/b]/2089  Bob Burton
[b]102[/b]/2440  Clément Gallet
 [b]98[/b]/741   Shelley Chang

.

I do have more 3x3BLD DNFs than you do (72 DNFs out of 133 attempts).

True, but you don't win that, either:

[b]94[/b]/119 Adam Zamora
[b]79[/b]/129 Bob Burton
[b]73[/b]/97  Dan Dzoan
[b]72[/b]/133 Shelley Chang
[b]66[/b]/97  Arnaud van Galen
[b]63[/b]/73  Ton Dennenbroek
[b]58[/b]/116 Tyson Mao
[b]57[/b]/92  Erik Akkersdijk
[b]53[/b]/58  Fran?ois Court?s
[b]53[/b]/60  Dan Cohen

.

I have a nice DNF streak going for 4x4BLD as well.

Again, sorry:

[b]22[/b]/22  Lucas Garron
[b]16[/b]/16  Dan Cohen
[b]15[/b]/15  Erik Akkersdijk
[b]15[/b]/16  Shelley Chang
[b]15[/b]/18  Daniel Beyer
[b]15[/b]/21  Clément Gallet
[b]15[/b]/31  Chris Hardwick
[b]12[/b]/14  Tim Reynolds
[b]12[/b]/14  Jason Baum
[b]12[/b]/19  Mike Hughey

Edit: All these might be off a little because of multiblind, sorry. That one's a bit tricky to count, both technically (writing the database query) and in general (how *should* it be counted?). All numbers of attempts should be correct, though, and the DNF numbers should reflect how often you see "DNF" on your WCA personal page (not counting averages and duplicates, of course).

 

[Stefan]

Do I win the "Highest proportion of DNFs from anyone who's been actually trying and has attempted 15 or more BLD solves" award?

Nope. I see you count all BLD events, I'll only count 3x3/4x4/5x5 because multi is a bit tricky:

100.00%  27/27  Nobuaki Suga
100.00%  25/25  Benjamin Sintes
100.00%  21/21  Markus Pirzer
100.00%  15/15  Jakub Cabaj
 95.00%  19/20  Sarah Strong
 95.00%  19/20  Aurélien Souchet
 94.73%  18/19  David Woner
 94.44%  17/18  Kyle Barry
 94.11%  16/17  John-Michael Clay
 94.11%  16/17  Shusei Tabuchi

 

[Jude]

Do I win the "Highest proportion of DNFs from anyone who's been actually trying and has attempted 15 or more BLD solves" award?

Nope. I see you count all BLD events, I'll only count 3x3/4x4/5x5 because multi is a bit tricky:

100.00%  27/27  Nobuaki Suga
100.00%  25/25  Benjamin Sintes
100.00%  21/21  Markus Pirzer
100.00%  15/15  Jakub Cabaj
 95.00%  19/20  Sarah Strong
 95.00%  19/20  Aurélien Souchet
 94.73%  18/19  David Woner
 94.44%  17/18  Kyle Barry
 94.11%  16/17  John-Michael Clay
 94.11%  16/17  Shusei Tabuchi

Haha oh well, I guess that is a good thing!

 

[Micael]

Questions to discuss after the reading:

1. Does having more DNFs really equate to 'winning' in any way? Explain.
2. Why is BLD so hard? Give examples of things in your life that were similarly difficult, and explain how you overcame them.
3. Should someone who gets all DNFs in 3x3 speedsolve keep going to competitions? Why or why not?

P.S. I have 28 DNFs in speed events and only 21 in BLD. I'd have more in BLD if I kept doing it but I don't like wasting competition time.

1. I am in agreement with you. For me, each DNF is a pain. However, I believe it is cool to make fun of it (like in this thread), since it lighten the pain.
2. BLD is not so hard, but it is harder than sighted cubing. This is based on my own experience, though.
3. Absolutely, in order to overcome it.

 

[cmhardw]

Questions to discuss after the reading:

2. Why is BLD so hard? Give examples of things in your life that were similarly difficult, and explain how you overcame them.

I can explain that for myself at least. It's all about the balance between trying for success, and trying for a fast solve. If you try mostly for success, you inevitably end up going slower overall and the resultant time tends to be slower than your peak speed. If you try for speed, then your times are closer to your peak speed, but your accuracy takes a big hit because of that.

As for finding a similar activity, I compare BLD cubing to non-cubers in the following way:

Imagine you need to buy groceries for the family. You write up a list of everything everybody needs, but you stop outside the door. You have to remember what's on the list (not necessarily in order), and before entering into the store to shop you have to throw the list away. Now go shopping and try to find everything that was on your list.

It's not exactly the same as BLD (because order does matter in BLD), but I think it's a good comparison for non-cubers. I suppose this would be a similar activity in daily life. I don't know how to tell you how I overcame the difficulty of accurately finding all items, because I don't often try this

Chris

 

[cubedude7]

Only 88 DNFs. Someone had 123. I remember. Though they'd been to way more comps.

Edit: ^^^ definitely. He was the only person at the Beijing Comp who DNFed all those events.

Just 123? I have had more than that

Rubik's Cube: Multi blind old style: 7
Rubik's Cube: Multiple Blindfolded: 6
Master Magic: 8
Rubik's Magic: 11
Rubik's Clock: 19 (I think 3 or 4 of these should have been DNS)
Square-1: 1
Pyraminx: 7 (I think 5 of these should have been DNS)
Megaminx: 1
Rubik's Cube: Fewest moves: 17
Rubik's Cube: Blindfolded: 66
5x5 Cube: 1
4x4 Cube: 2
Rubik's Cube: 3

Total = 149

Well Arnaud, it looks like you're still the invincible champion. You must be very proud of yourself, aren't you?

 

[shelley]

Thanks for the stats Stefan, I was hoping somebody would post some interesting ones. I like how we've all become so proud of our failures in this thread.

 

[peedu]

Looks like I got a good start for BLD DNFing.

1 competition, 3 attempts, 3 DNF-s. Failure rate: 100%

Why did I learn BLD at all?

Peedu

 

[shelley]

Looks like I got a good start for BLD DNFing.

1 competition, 3 attempts, 3 DNF-s. Failure rate: 100%

Why did I learn BLD at all?

Peedu

Don't worry, Bruce finally got a success; you can too!

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Don't worry, Bruce finally got a success; you can too!

It was magical.
Also, Stefan seemed to have missed this guy's BLD DNFs somehow
http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2006KUTI01
<_<

 

[jms_gears1]

ok so my biggest question is how it this possible:

Beijing Summer Open 2009
Semi Final 36 DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF
Combined First 148 DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF

how is this person in the semi finals...

 

[Mike Hughey]

Also, Stefan seemed to have missed this guy's BLD DNFs somehow
http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2006KUTI01
<_<

No, it just looks like he doesn't rank high enough to get on any of the lists. Amazing what the explosion of competitions has done to the lists, isn't it?

ok so my biggest question is how it this possible:

Beijing Summer Open 2009
Semi Final 36 DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF
Combined First 148 DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF DNF

how is this person in the semi finals...

Simple: the solves were converted to DNFs after the semifinals were over.

 

[Stefan]

No, it just looks like he doesn't rank high enough to get on any of the lists.

He led the bld dnf percentage list I made for Jude, but I left him out because I only wanted real dnfs (well, at least as far as I know). In my opinion it'd make more sense to turn cheating to DNS rather than DNF anyway.

 

[Mike Hughey]

No, it just looks like he doesn't rank high enough to get on any of the lists.

He led the bld dnf percentage list I made for Jude, but I left him out because I only wanted real dnfs (well, at least as far as I know). In my opinion it'd make more sense to turn cheating to DNS rather than DNF anyway.

Oh, sorry - I forgot about the percentage list. And I agree. (Or maybe we could make a third category - something like DNQ for "did not qualify [as a solve]".)

 

[keemy]

hmm so is there a list for who is winning at DNFs (excluding BLD event). I ask because I feel like I could be a contender but that could just be a dumb asumption (though I do have a few DNF averages).
(oh and also one excluding clock and blindfold but w/e)